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| Foul committed as Tomkins is over the line, arms outstretched in the act of scoring. Video referee correctly advises illegal smash to the head. Ganson has no option to send Raynor off.
How the hell was that not given a penalty try, and thus a easy penalty under the sticks?
Whilst thankfully it made no difference to the final result, we were denied two points we should have got. Compare it to the penalty try given to Leeds against Bradford in Cardiff then that incident occurred a couple of metres out from the try line???????
Just think someone got that wrong!
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| Should have been an 8 point try, ie kick at goal after the conversion from under the sticks. No penalty try as the try was scored.
IIRC we had one free kick, and one penalty in the entire game, a new record low?
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| Sorry yes, that's what I mean. An extra penalty under the sticks. A total of 8 points not just the six.
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| Quote: endoman "Should have been an 8 point try, ie kick at goal after the conversion from under the sticks. No penalty try as the try was scored.
IIRC we had one free kick, and one penalty in the entire game, a new record low?'"
Agree with this.
The Sin Bin did make me laugh. We were warned that the next offense would be a sin binning, then 10 minutes later Lima was binned for a seemingly random reason. His confused face is becoming a regular part of the season.
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| Quote: MattyB "Foul committed as Tomkins is over the line, arms outstretched in the act of scoring. Video referee correctly advises illegal smash to the head. Ganson has no option to send Raynor off.
How the hell was that not given a penalty try, and thus a easy penalty under the sticks?
Whilst thankfully it made no difference to the final result, we were denied two points we should have got. Compare it to the penalty try given to Leeds against Bradford in Cardiff then that incident occurred a couple of metres out from the try line???????
Just think someone got that wrong!'"
I could be completely wrong, but if a penalty try is awarded that doesn't mean the attacking team gets a penalty after the try does it? Only that the try is awarded as the player was prevented from scoring by an illegal challenge? Could the try have been scored and given as a try and not penalty try (as the ball wasn't dropped) and then a penalty awarded? I thought leeds got the penalty try against Bradford, but that didn't award them the extra penalty did it? I think the try being given (not a penalty try) was correct but that a penalty should have been awarded in front of the sticks also). It's likely I'm completely wrong with that, I just wasnt sure.
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| maybe its because Sam actually scored the try despite being knocked out? If he'd have had the ball dislodged and knocked on, maybe it would have been an 8 point try?
who knows
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| Should have been an 8 point try.
Think Ganson got that part of it wrong.
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| If he doesn't get it down, it's a penalty try, if he does it's an 8 point try. I think Ganson got it wrong.
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| As far as im aware an 8 point try can only be awarded if a player is fouled when the ball is down and the try is scored.
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| A sending off offence and no resulting penalty. I wonder if that has ever happened before ?
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| Quote: brook40 "As far as im aware an 8 point try can only be awarded if a player is fouled when the ball is down and the try is scored.'"
or in the act of scoring
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| Quote: brook40 "As far as im aware an 8 point try can only be awarded if a player is fouled when the ball is down and the try is scored.'"
No, an 8 point try can be awarded when the player is in the act of scoring a try, which Sam Tomkins was.
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "No, an 8 point try can be awarded when the player is in the act of scoring a try, which Sam Tomkins was.'"
Then it was a mistake by ganson
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| From the rfl website.
Offence against Try scorer 9. If a player fouls an opponent who is touching down for a try, a penalty kick at goal shall be taken from in front of the goal posts after the attempt to convert the try. After his kick has been taken the ball shall be deemed dead and play shall be restarted from the halfway line. This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period.
Its worded a bit ambiguosly and it could be interpreted differently by people but the key part is " This law applies to the period during which the ball is touched down for a try and not to any subsequent period."
Which to me means the ball has to be down first.Ganson is the type of ref who would give an 8 point try if the rules allowed it.
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "No, an 8 point try can be awarded when the player is in the act of scoring a try, which Sam Tomkins was.'"
But he wasn't, was he?
Example of genuine cases would be a player sliding in on a player scoring a try.
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