So Tommy has been named in the Kiwi squad for the 4 nations , I hope they play him at Hooker , just for some more experience before he shines at 9 for Wigan next year .

Let's hope they don't let him kick in general play - worst kicking game I have seen from a 7. Has any kick he has put in ever stayed in the field of play?

Hes played at hooker for the last 3 or 4 years for NZ so no reason why not

his kicking game was great on saturday , did you not see the game ? Harry Sunderland trophy and all that .

Watch the game back again and at least 3 kicks go dead. Same every week. Certainly did not win HS for his kicking game.

one slight problem...

Isaac Luke

He's generally been the interchange hooker lately spelling Isaac Luke from the bench, although he started the WC Final when the Kiwis won it in 08

Luke starts and tommy on the bench...simples

Did you actually watch the G.F ? He proved that he actually does have a decent kicking game.....

Three kicks go dead.
Stains tap on their twenty.
Wigan defence is set.
Stains get nowhere again.
Game won.
Wigan are Champions.
Bring on Stains George.

exactly..........

I hope the Kiwis let him kick every set!

This is exactly the point, Saints, as far as I'm aware, made no breaks from a standing start when our defence was set. A lot has been said about how our kicking game won us the match and fair enough we forced some mistakes through kicks but for me the commitment from our defence won won us the match. Saints made little or no yards after contact in the first quarter as our defenders effectively cancelled out their momentum, wasn't it 13 mins before they crossed half way? This was not a great deal to do with the quality of our kicking and contributed to the mistakes they made seemingly unforced later in the game. Tommy could have kicked the ball dead all game and we would still have won. Its not rocket science but sometimes kicking the ball dead is done tactically and on each occasion we did it it worked, hardly the best choice of game to criticise Tommy, who, imo has been one of our most consistent performers in the previous years where consistency has been our problem.

i think tommy has an excellent short kicking game his attacking kicks iv always thought were very good it was his long kicking game that has let him down usually always kicking directly to the full back or winger.

i thought on saturday his kicking game was good all over just needs to be consistant with it

i still would prefer wigan to sign another hooker though as i dont think he is the answer piggy will be a huge loss IMO