will sam tomkins be wasted again on friday as kicking tee lad
while we have to put up with useless lump of lard piggy riddell

pathetic mate,the reason nobby didnt pick him against hull is coz there a big pack with some big hitters in the team, if he got injured you would be the first person to say why did he pick him against all the big men of KR, the lad is in no state to play everygame, its a marathon not a sprint this super league season, use sam later on in the year when teams start to tire out quicker

If you have the talent, why waste it. Nobby knows best though, obviously

I think we should play him off the bench, that was working so why change it? He gives us an extra option and takes on the line like no other player.

Stupid posts like this are really starting to bug me about Tomkins.

If some people had their way he wouldn’t have played yet this season as every game there is a new excuse for why he shouldn’t e.g they’ll be up for it or they’ve got some big forwards, he needs a rest, the wet weather wouldn’t suit him etc, etc etc it’s pathetic

FFS the kid has played in 2 massive Wigan vs Saints derby games! It doesn’t get anymore intense or bigger at SL level but yet he shouldn’t have played against Wakey in the first game of the season or KR last week?? Sam has handled players like Graham, Cunningham, Roby, Pauleta etc and not got injured so why would it have happened against KR?

Like it or lump it we aren’t Saints who have the ability/squad to rest young players and not feel it. Tomkins was missed on Friday and the longer we leave him out the more and more we’ll miss him and the same goes for Ainscough 2.

Yes he will. But it will be in place of McIllorum not Piggy.

Finally somebody speaking sence concerning Tomkins

We need him playing though, he gives us another Dimension in attack(which we missed against KR). Also look what Mylers doing with Salford hes younger than Sam but he dusnt need "duty of care" or whatever you call it.

Do you want Sam to play on friday or is he too tired?

Tbh I am torn over these issues.


Part of me says "throw 'em in the deep end, ala Faz or Edwards"

Part of me says "Careful with (very) young talent"


Ultimately it's Nobby's call. He is closer to them than any of us.

I have absolutely no doubt that he will do whatever is right for the two of them.

And what about Ratchford at Salford, and Watkins at Leeds, they are not playing week in week out.

I think Sam will play from the bench on Friday and McIlorum will miss out.
I also think Hansen will play and Joel Tomkins will miss out.

Then again we don't know the injury situation do we.

Spot on mate. Thats exactly how it is.

And just for those who want to kick Piggy out


look here

rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season

what a load of b@llox dont talk poo

When that comment was made I’m sure IL didn't envisage or plan on us being in the situation we currently find ourselves in. Times change sadly and comments made three or four months ago can’t be held to account now.

By all means if Smith was playing out of his skin and turning out to be at least 50% of the player Trent was or if Piggy wasn’t taking so long to settle in or find form then yes i’d be more than happy for Sam to get those mythical 15 games IL said he’d get at the start of the season.

But sadly this hasn’t happened and this team needs Sam’s enthusiasm, talent and commitment to the Wigan cause just like it did before the Quins game earlier in the season. Let’s not forget the two players who came into a losing side and played a massive part in turning it around that day.

Sam and Ainscough came in and replaced two badly performing players in Smith and Roberts and took to SL like a duck to water. They started our mini revival and now all of a sudden they’ve been shot back down to the reserves to be replaced by the same players who got us into the mess we were in???



Yes one was overrated by Stevo after one decent try against Saints and the other forgot which way to drive round a roundabout? Neither have or had half the talent Tomkins has.


No because they have Pryce and Long in front of them. We’ve got the lottery of what Smith will turn up each week!



No but again they had Dunneman to out lodge and we’ve got what I said above......

The team performs when Sam plays and seeing that every game is now critical to our season we don't have the luxury of not playing him.

If he needed a rest we should have waited until we were comfortably in the top eight so defeats like Friday wouldn’t be such a huge blow to our season! Four wins on the bounce should have the beginning and not as good as it gets which imo is looking that way.