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Can anybody see this inconsistency ever ending?

Something needs to be re-shuffled and something has to be done to place a bit of solidarity at the club.

There is something wrong, clearly. We've gone through years of inconstency, uncertainty and no confidence yet have been saved with a decent end of season and playoff run.

Sorry, but ''the business end of the season'' crap doesn't warrant three out of four losses at home, it doesn't warrant Jeckyl and performances nor does it help the cause of actually get in the playoffs to even be involved with ''the business end of the season''.

This thread isn't panicking it isn't whinging and it isn't over reaction...I've been through all those emotions over the last few years. Unfortunately it's what I am now used to. Also, I think this is more than just a ''coaching issue''. We have a world class coach and world class players as well as the countries finest youngsters...Why can't we find a formula to make them consistently work?

Our attendances are reflecting the performances on the pitch and when you consider Mr. Lenagan's aim of averaging 20,000 within the next 2 years...Well, it just goes to show how things aren't going to plan from his perspective.

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Quote: Alex BP' "Can anybody see this inconsistancy ever ending?

Something needs to be re-shuffled and something has to be done to place abit of solidarity at the club.

There is something wrong, clearly. We've gone through years of inconstancy, uncertainty and no confidence yet have been saved with a decent end of season and playoff run.

Sorry, but ''the business end of the season'' crap doesn't warrent three out of four losses at home, it doesn't warrent Jeckyl and performances nor does it help of cause of actually get in the playoffs to even be involved with ''the business end of the season''.

This thread isn't panicking it isn't whinging and it isn't over reaction...I've been through all those emotions over the last few years. Unfortunately it's what I am now used to. Also, I think this is more than just a ''coaching issue''. We have a world class coach and world class players as well as the countries finest youngsters...Why can't we find a formula to make them consistantly work.

Our attendances are reflecting the performances on the pitch and when you consider Mr. Lenegan's aim of averaging 20,000 within the next 2 years...Well, it just goes to show how things aren't going to plan from his perspective.'"


Maybe he will need to continue to bus down more coachloads of Cumbrians on freebies to achieve it.


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Quote: Alex BP' "Can anybody see this inconsistancy ever ending?

Something needs to be re-shuffled and something has to be done to place abit of solidarity at the club.

There is something wrong, clearly. We've gone through years of inconstancy, uncertainty and no confidence yet have been saved with a decent end of season and playoff run.

Sorry, but ''the business end of the season'' crap doesn't warrent three out of four losses at home, it doesn't warrent Jeckyl and performances nor does it help the cause of actually get in the playoffs to even be involved with ''the business end of the season''.

This thread isn't panicking it isn't whinging and it isn't over reaction...I've been through all those emotions over the last few years. Unfortunately it's what I am now used to. Also, I think this is more than just a ''coaching issue''. We have a world class coach and world class players as well as the countries finest youngsters...Why can't we find a formula to make them consistantly work.

Our attendances are reflecting the performances on the pitch and when you consider Mr. Lenegan's aim of averaging 20,000 within the next 2 years...Well, it just goes to show how things aren't going to plan from his perspective.'"


Clearly we do not.

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Who are these "world class players"?????

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Quote: Bilko "Who are these "world class players"?????'"


And Coach!!

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The sad thing is we are now a very average team in Super League terms.

Results like tonight's match show how poor Salford and Bradford must have been to let us beat them so convincingly.

As I gaze into my crystal ball I see a convincing win against Barrow to come closely followed by yet another stuffing against Stains the following Thursday.

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Quote: Bilko "Who are these "world class players"?????'"


O'Loughlin, Hock, Riddell, Roberts, Fielden, Smith, Bailey have all earned world recognized awards/call ups but aren't producing the same form currently at Wigan.

Either way, those mentioned aren't bottom 7 standard players are they?

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Quote: Alex BP' "Can anybody see this inconsistancy ever ending?

Something needs to be re-shuffled and something has to be done to place abit of solidarity at the club.

There is something wrong, clearly. We've gone through years of inconstancy, uncertainty and no confidence yet have been saved with a decent end of season and playoff run.

Sorry, but ''the business end of the season'' crap doesn't warrent three out of four losses at home, it doesn't warrent Jeckyl and performances nor does it help the cause of actually get in the playoffs to even be involved with ''the business end of the season''.

This thread isn't panicking it isn't whinging and it isn't over reaction...I've been through all those emotions over the last few years. Unfortunately it's what I am now used to. Also, I think this is more than just a ''coaching issue''. We have a world class coach and world class players as well as the countries finest youngsters...Why can't we find a formula to make them consistantly work.

Our attendances are reflecting the performances on the pitch and when you consider Mr. Lenegan's aim of averaging 20,000 within the next 2 years...Well, it just goes to show how things aren't going to plan from his perspective.'"


What club are you watching icon_confused.gif
We need a good clearout of the crap and stop signing the standard of player of Bailey, Piggy, Tim Smith, Roberts etc

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Lenegan seems as cluesless as Noble, the crowds are going Lenegan..Crap Rugby, Crap Coach, Crap Future.....Sort it...

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Quote: warrior06 "We need a good clearout of the crap and stop signing the standard of player of Bailey, Piggy, Tim Smith, Roberts etc'"


Did you think they would have been bad signings BEFORE we sign them?

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Quote: Alex BP' "O'Loughlin, Hock, Riddell, Roberts, Fielden, Smith, Bailey have all earned world recognized awards/call ups but aren't producing the same form currently at Wigan.

Either way, those mentioned aren't bottom 7 standard players are they?'"


Just like our coach all have major flaws in there game, the issue is that even though all players have weaknesses we play to a style that exposes them.

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Quote: Babyface Finlayson "Lenegan seems as cluesless as Noble, the crowds are going Lenegan..Crap Rugby, Crap Coach, Crap Future.....Sort it...'"


Lenegan is worse than clueless


He isn't a patch on Mo imo, both in RL knowledge and application.

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Quote: XBrettKennyX "Lenegan is worse than clueless


He isn't a patch on Mo imo, both in RL knowledge and application.'"


Serious question Brett not trying to draw a row, what are your thoughts on Noble are they still unphased, you seem to continually point the finger everywhere apart from at him.

While I accept your stance with the chairman for me the way to solve this would be by sacking the coach.

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Quote: Alex BP' "Did you think they would have been bad signings BEFORE we sign them?'"



Yes
Second choice hooker playing second row in the NRL
An alchoholic idiot who has more problems that can be listed
A player recovering from major need surgery (Mathers)
Roberts has always been a suspect defender in a very strong Sydney Roosters team who was allowed toleave to free up room on the salary cap.

So yes i would not have signed anyone of them icon_lol.gif

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Quote: jonh "Just like our coach all have major flaws in there game, the issue is that even though all players have weaknesses we play to a style that exposes them.'"



Not being funny but can you really comment after not being at the game?

Can you evaluate the performance?

Can you draw your own conclusions about the performance?


I am conscious that I don't want to bore people into a BK vs JH thread, but the point is worthwhile imo.

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