i think they should allow refs to use video for crucial plays if a ball travels forward its a penalty...end of...

What is the momentum rule? Could you explain it for me please?

It's a bad name for a simple concept. There are several ways of thinking aout it.

A pass must go backwards from the passer to the catcher [irelative to the players[/i (who are running forwards), not relative to the pitch.

Think about looking from above down on the play, but ignore the pitch, just look at the players. If the angle from the passer to the catcher is backwards, the pass is OK.

If the passer is 2 metres in front of the catcher both when the ball is passed and when it is caught, and the players are running forward fast enough, then the ball may have gone forward relative to the pitch, but this wouldn't be a forward pass because the ball always went backwards relative to the players.

It's got nothing whatsoever to do with 'momentum' though!

Penalty? A scrum surely?

The game stop and starts enough with out going to the video ref for a suspected forward pass all the time .

A intentional forward pass is a penalty

Stevos made up bullturd.

He says, if the 'passer' is infront of the ball when the 'catcher' recieves it, it is not a forward pass due to the momentum rule.

The 'momentum rule' is the way Stevo describes the ball having forward momentum even if it's passed backwards.

Basically if a player is running forwards, and passes the ball sideways, it will travel forwards relative to the field because the ball will have the same forward speed as the player who passed it. Its a tough thing to try to explain in words.

Momentum is a poor choice of word really, and thats what confuses people, as well as it being a tough concept to visualize. The ball has two components to its movement, a forward compenent from the player who passed it running forwards, and whatever speed the player passing it gives it by passing, so a combination of these two components gives it a resultant speed that is "forwards"

That's why ref's look at how the hands point, rather than use markers.

Re the poll I think we have to leave it as it is, because unless there is a camera that is exactly level with the ball then there will never be a definitive answer.

Except of the forward momentum you have described which makes the ball travel forwards on the pitch but not relative to the players.

Quote: talulah "It's a bad name for a simple concept. There are several ways of thinking aout it. A pass must go backwards from the passer to the catcher [irelative to the players[/i (who are running forwards), not relative to the pitch. Think about looking from above down on the play, but ignore the pitch, just look at the players. If the angle from the passer to the catcher is backwards, the pass is OK. If the passer is 2 metres in front of the catcher both when the ball is passed and when it is caught, and the players are running forward fast enough, then the ball may have gone forward relative to the pitch, but this wouldn't be a forward pass because the ball always went backwards relative to the players. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with 'momentum' though!'" It has everything to do with momentum and is actually quite a good name for it. Momentum simply means that the momentum of the player moving forward makes the ball move forward when it is released exactly as you have described there. I know you're not supposed to link to youtube but I will try this explains it perfectly: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s It is union but thats what momentum is the video title to search is "Rugby Union "Forward Pass" video"

Quote: talulah "It's a bad name for a simple concept. There are several ways of thinking aout it. A pass must go backwards from the passer to the catcher [irelative to the players[/i (who are running forwards), not relative to the pitch. Think about looking from above down on the play, but ignore the pitch, just look at the players. If the angle from the passer to the catcher is backwards, the pass is OK. If the passer is 2 metres in front of the catcher both when the ball is passed and when it is caught, and the players are running forward fast enough, then the ball may have gone forward relative to the pitch, but this wouldn't be a forward pass because the ball always went backwards relative to the players. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with 'momentum' though!'" It has everything to do with momentum and is actually quite a good name for it. Momentum simply means that the momentum of the player moving forward makes the ball move forward when it is released exactly as you have described there. I know you're not supposed to link to youtube but I will try this explains it perfectly: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s It is union but thats what momentum is the video title to search is "Rugby Union "Forward Pass" video"

Yet again, it's scary just how many RL fans do not understand the forward pass rule.

Please, if you're struggling, or think that 'unless it's clearly backwards, it's forwards, rlwatch this video.rl

No, there is no momentum rule, but yes, momentum is the reason a pass can travel forward in relation to the ground but still be backward (in relation to the players).

Great minds? ha

If they started going to the video for forward passes every try would have to be looked at.