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| Pleased with this.
Olly’s goal should be to gain and secure an international spot. Wigan is the right place to achieve that. Here he’s settled, knows the team, the club, he coach and can focus on his game soley.
Moving to another SL club would mean having to find his feet all over and have to deal with the process of being somewhere new.
If his end goal is the NRL; which I feel it is, then going over now could be counterproductive. As an international he can command more money, have more respect and reputation to take with him.
Going over now could stunt his career if he’s not given game time; which would be a strong possibility at this stage in his career.
Goal had to be; be outstanding. Become an international centre and then discuss a NRL move. Three years is a perfect amount of time to achieve his intermediate goals.
Abd for us? We secure a quality young centre whose goal is to be outstanding. The reassess in 3 yrs.
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| Great news and let’s be honest... we’ve needed some
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| Good news, shortage of centres available and he’s one of super leagues best and will only get better. Can’t believe he’s still 21.
If he has 3 great years at Wigan then wants to try his hand in Aus, he’ll go with my blessing.
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| Very good news as centres are getting harder to find these days - at least good ones and in Gildart's case he is young enough to have plenty of time to develop further.
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| Signed for who, Stains?
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| I think that he has made the right choice. He should be applauded for wanting to try himself at a higher level but he still needs to prove himself. If he gives us two blockbuster years and earns a big paycheque in Aus I would happily wave him off at the airport with best wishes.
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| Absolutely brilliant news!
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| Great news. Think we'd better brace ourselves for Bateman leaving though
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| It’s top news because as pointed out, not only is he a very good player but he’s one who would’ve been a nightmare to replace for anything under very good money. As much as I’d love to see Sutton and Bateman stay, they’re both easier to replace. In Batemans case in particular it’s still a tough ask to get somebody anywhere near as good but when you think we’ve already got Farrell, Lockers, Joel Tomkins and Isa, we may just decide to look to spend the money in other areas.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It’s top news because as pointed out, not only is he a very good player but he’s one who would’ve been a nightmare to replace for anything under very good money. As much as I’d love to see Sutton and Bateman stay, they’re both easier to replace. In Batemans case in particular it’s still a tough ask to get somebody anywhere near as good but when you think we’ve already got Farrell, Lockers, Joel Tomkins and Isa, we may just decide to look to spend the money in other areas.'"
Think you're vastly underrating Bateman. He's already a game breaker. Superb in defence and attack, a natural leader and highly versatile. Can't think of anyone as good as him who's obtainable, he's not a 'run of the mill' player.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It’s top news because as pointed out, not only is he a very good player but he’s one who would’ve been a nightmare to replace for anything under very good money. As much as I’d love to see Sutton and Bateman stay, they’re both easier to replace. In Batemans case in particular it’s still a tough ask to get somebody anywhere near as good but when you think we’ve already got Farrell, Lockers, Joel Tomkins and Isa, we may just decide to look to spend the money in other areas.'"
I agree. It might have been on Mike's board but I posted more of less the same thing that I thought of the three Gildart was the one who we needed to keep the most even if currently this season his form has been questioned by some or Bateman was considered more of the finished article and better player at the minute. I would also like to keep both Sutton and Bateman as well. Bateman's qualities are obvious and I think Sutton will mature into a top class prop but if they go they don't leave such a gaping hole in the side.
I read his blog on the official site earlier today before this announcement and I thought then he was staying. It just wasn't written in a non committal way, seemed forward looking and would have been a strange one for the club to publish if the announcement was he was off and I had seen rumours of a signing being announced today. So glad my optimism has been rewarded and I am looking forward to watching him for the next three seasons.
If he sees his contract out then that is all we can ask. He should be raring to go v the Wire this weekend.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Think you're vastly underrating Bateman. He's already a game breaker. Superb in defence and attack, a natural leader and highly versatile. Can't think of anyone as good as him who's obtainable, he's not a 'run of the mill' player.'"
He's not run of the mill but it's what the team needs as well and I don't think he is world class. I don't think he is remotely close to Lockers for example. Just not got the ball playing skills or vision and yet he is often touted as the natural successor. He's more of a hard running 2nd row for me. A very good one but if marquee money is to be splashed about and it comes down to Bateman or a top class 7, we need the top class 7. Despite signing Hardaker (assuming we do) then even if we keep Bateman that will leave us with literally NO ONE to guide the team on-field now Sam T is off as Lockers only seems to play a 1/4 of the game.
If the club manages to keep Bateman [iwithout[/i making him marquee [iand[/i signs a marquee 7 then I will have to revise my opinion of Radlinski's recruitment.
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| Quote: DaveO "He's not run of the mill but it's what the team needs as well and I don't think he is world class. I don't think he is remotely close to Lockers for example. Just not got the ball playing skills or vision and yet he is often touted as the natural successor. He's more of a hard running 2nd row for me. A very good one but if marquee money is to be splashed about and it comes down to Bateman or a top class 7, we need the top class 7. Despite signing Hardaker (assuming we do) then even if we keep Bateman that will leave us with literally NO ONE to guide the team on-field now Sam T is off as Lockers only seems to play a 1/4 of the game.
If the club manages to keep Bateman [iwithout[/i making him marquee [iand[/i signs a marquee 7 then I will have to revise my opinion of Radlinski's recruitment.'"
Firstly the comparison to Lockers is unfair. John is a far better player now than Lockers was at 24. John if anything is the victim of his versatility, if he was given game time as a 13 and 13 only you'd see how quickly he'd develop, instead he's the first to be shifted to the centres for cover then often to 13 when Lockers is out.
When he covered at 13 v Leeds his passing and movement was surprising, very good hands, very good lateral movement and vision linking the halves. If he was given game time in the position you'd see his passing and vision more frequently, instead he's shoved into the centres or played as a hard running SR forward.
John's not WC? his skillset is far beyond that of many NRL back rowers of a similar age, an international regular all at the age of 24.
He is one of the few WC players we have a SL.
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| Quote: DaveO "He's not run of the mill but it's what the team needs as well and I don't think he is world class. I don't think he is remotely close to Lockers for example. Just not got the ball playing skills or vision and yet he is often touted as the natural successor. He's more of a hard running 2nd row for me. A very good one but if marquee money is to be splashed about and it comes down to Bateman or a top class 7, we need the top class 7. Despite signing Hardaker (assuming we do) then even if we keep Bateman that will leave us with literally NO ONE to guide the team on-field now Sam T is off as Lockers only seems to play a 1/4 of the game.
If the club manages to keep Bateman [iwithout[/i making him marquee [iand[/i signs a marquee 7 then I will have to revise my opinion of Radlinski's recruitment.'"
Also, signing Bateman to a marquee is a good use of the marquee as it could well happen. We don't need a marquee 7 for our style of play, and even more of an issue; we can't can't sign one. Who do you honestly expect us to sign as a marquee 7?
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