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We announced Charlie Hodgson as kicking consultant which I think is a great move by the club. It’s only for the off season though which although a welcome move, I’d say we needed a longer term appointment. Still, it should lead to a bigger goal kicking success rate.

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It baffles me that we didn't already have a kicking coach. I know that is a very glass-half-empty response, but in the last few seasons I've seen them turning to hot yoga, ballet and wrestling, yet they have only just decided to look at the only facet of the game which leads directly to points. Are other top sides in the same boat as far as we know?

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Quote: Grimmy "It baffles me that we didn't already have a kicking coach. I know that is a very glass-half-empty response, but in the last few seasons I've seen them turning to hot yoga, ballet and wrestling, yet they have only just decided to look at the only facet of the game which leads directly to points. Are other top sides in the same boat as far as we know?'"


It’s crazy when you put it like that!

Kicking is mainly practice imo and a small amount natural talent/kick strength. I have said many times on here that Williams seems to have an okay technique and good kick strength and with training could be a good place kicker. Appointing Hodgson should only help with his improvement.

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I doubt many league clubs over here will have full time kicking coaches. That's not to say they shouldn't but I don't think the finances allow it because it's simply not as important as kicking in Union is.

Hopefully he can unearth a gem. I always feel kicking is more in the head then even in the technique and hopefully he can work on both sides of that.

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So that means we aren't signing a kicker so all the Luke Gale rumours etc are put to bed. Not sure what a kicking coach can do in an un-competitive 2 months but it is a step in the right direction and a positive move my the club.

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If he is only here for 2 months, then realistically he’s only going to get about a month to work with Williams once he’s returned to training after his post-World Cup break. Presumably he’ll be working with Escare and Tomkins in the meantime.

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We need another Richards & Botica now, because we don't score that many tries. Accruing points in 6's means we have a better chance of winning the closer games.

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Quote: muttywhitedog "We need another Richards & Botica now, because we don't score that many tries. Accruing points in 6's means we have a better chance of winning the closer games.'"


Put the fishing rod away icon_wink.gif You know we were the second highest try scorers in Superleague last year.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Put the fishing rod away
Unfortunately though Rouges we leaked a load too which is why we finished where we did. By rights 2nd highest scorers should put us in the top 2 if you consider it. Kicking as we all know was a massive issue last season and the one before that. Imagine if Widdop wasn't as assured this morning icon_eek.gif It isn't just about kicking for the extra 2 points it's about attacking kicks too. Not sure what a Union mon can teach a League mon about attacking kicks though to be honest. I watched a game of Union last week and a fella in the crowd got Man Of The Match.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Put the fishing rod away
Yes and imagine if we had a decent attack what we could do.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Put the fishing rod away
So the others aren't scoring too many either then ?

Often within the 20 we look clueless as to how to get over that tryline.

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Seems not only Wigan have this problem, England coached by the "great" Wayne Bennet looked similar in the semi-final today especially in the first half, the Tongan defense was rushing off the line when England were in the Tongan 20m zone leaving a big space behind - crying out for grubber into the space but not a sign of one at all. Took half way through the second half before Gale actually kicked into the try zone and the result - a drop out and then a try!

So it looks like it is not just a Wigan issue! icon_wink.gif

On the kicking coach front a good isea but previous great Wigan goal kickers didn't need one so go figure!

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "Unfortunately though Rouges we leaked a load too which is why we finished where we did. By rights 2nd highest scorers should put us in the top 2 if you consider it. Kicking as we all know was a massive issue last season and the one before that. Imagine if Widdop wasn't as assured this morning
The defence was as much an issue as the goalkicking. IMO our short kicking game is as good as most, however our kicking from deep needs a lot of work, although Escare did look decent until his injury.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Put the fishing rod away
Does anyone know how we did this? Lies, damned lies and stats and all that because from what I saw our attack was poor. Regardless of that if we had combined that stat with a similar stat re goal kicks we might have been in a better position to win something. And may have done so. It's been an obvious issue for a while.

The fact the club have acknowledged it is a step forward. Better than just having a kicking competition and picking the best of a bad lot which is what it has done in recent seasons but the proof of the pudding.....

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