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also regarding 20 years in super league who would people have for the worse ever wigan team in super league and also the worse players to play in super league

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Assuming we're only including guys who were regular picks (e.g not the likes of Desi Williams who only had a couple of games) and not picking substitutes as starters:

Coach - Ian Millward

1. Mathers
2. Calderwood
3. Aspinwall
4. Withers
5. Hodgson
6. Smith
7. Moran
8. Fielden (Post ’06)
9. Millard
10. Mossop (current spell)
11. Hock (second spell)
12. Bailey
13. Tickle

14. Bibey
15. Higham
16. Lauaki
17. Pettybourne

Struggled for back rowers to be honest, we’ve been really spoiled in the department and didn’t want to go for the likes of Wilkes and Jonkers who only played a few games. Tickle and Bailey weren't that bad at second row, and earned their 'worst team' selections from when they were asked to play prop and centre respectively. I'd have probably had Joel Tomkins' current spell in there if he hadn't just scored a good try in the derby!

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Hock was unplayable for much of 2012. his selection is very harsh.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: JonB95 "Hock was unplayable for much of 2012. his selection is very harsh.'"

Who would you pick though? The other options of regular starting second rowers as far as I've seen ('01-Presentt) are - Cassidy, Betts, Furner, Fletcher, Hansen, J.Tomkins, Hoffman, L.Farrell or Bateman. Not a bad player in that lot IMO. I went for Hock because of his wild offloads and penalties. Perhaps Joel Tomkins in his current spell would have been a better pick.

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Quote: JonB95 "Hock was unplayable for much of 2012. his selection is very harsh.'"


Except when it mattered.

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Quote: Grimmy "Assuming we're only including guys who were regular picks (e.g not the likes of Desi Williams who only had a couple of games) and not picking substitutes as starters Hock made the dream team in his full return season. Was outstanding.

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Quote: Grimmy "Who would you pick though? The other options of regular starting second rowers as far as I've seen ('01-Presentt) are - Cassidy, Betts, Furner, Fletcher, Hansen, J.Tomkins, Hoffman, L.Farrell or Bateman. Not a bad player in that lot IMO. I went for Hock because of his wild offloads and penalties. Perhaps Joel Tomkins in his current spell would have been a better pick.'"


Not regulars but Tim Jonkers, Stephen Wild, Chris Chester(?).

I'd put Nathan McAvoy, Wayne McDonald and Desi Williams in there straight away. In fact most of the players we signed between 05-06 should go in.

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Quote: Grimmy "Assuming we're only including guys who were regular picks (e.g not the likes of Desi Williams who only had a couple of games) and not picking substitutes as starters

Some dodgy ones in there, but picking Smith in there is the worst of the lot, if you mean Matty anyway.

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I have picked a worst SL team from all the teams, As already stated it would be too easy to do a Wigan one from the dark era of the mid noughties.

My team is based on underperforming players at the bigger clubs because it would be far too easy to just rattle off a team full of PSG and London players although most of my selections are Wigan players because i saw them play regularly but some stinkers from other teams have sneaked in.

1. Mathers/Webb - Too tough to call that one
2. Calderwood - At Wigan - I was massively disappointed with him bar the Bradford play off game
3. McAvoy
4. K. Pryce
5. Colbon
6. Wheeler/Lomax - Don't really deserve to be on the list as they are actually very good players but injuries have ruined their careers.
7. Sammut - What the hell happened after Bradford
8. Prescott - Never seen a forward make as many handling errors and give away as many penalties
9. Scott Moore
10. Mossop - See Prescott
11. Stankevitch
12. P. Bailey
13. Lauaki - Absolute garbage in every aspect of his game.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: PurpleCheeseWarrior "Some dodgy ones in there, but picking Smith in there is the worst of the lot, if you mean Matty anyway.'"

Tim

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Wigg'n "Not regulars but Tim Jonkers, Stephen Wild, Chris Chester(?).

I'd put Nathan McAvoy, Wayne McDonald and Desi Williams in there straight away. In fact most of the players we signed between 05-06 should go in.'"

Yeah as I said, was deliberately omitted players that weren't regulars.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Wigan, purely based on their time at Wigan, it's hard to think pre 1997 as we had quality in every position. I'd say 97-98 and 2006 we had a glut of rubbish players.

1 - Doc Murray
2 - Desi Williams
3 - Michael Withers
4 - David Vaeliki
5 - Jon Whittle
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7 - Dennis Moran
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9 - Mark Reber
10 - Wayne McDonald
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I honestly dont remember withers playing for us lol

And i think its harsh to include jordan james, he actually went ok. Liam botham would probably get in as would danny hill

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Quote: post "Wigan, purely based on their time at Wigan, it's hard to think pre 1997 as we had quality in every position. I'd say 97-98 and 2006 we had a glut of rubbish players.

1 - Doc Murray
2 - Desi Williams
3 - Michael Withers
4 - David Vaeliki
5 - Jon Whittle
6 - Matthew Johns
7 - Dennis Moran
8 - Andy Powell
9 - Mark Reber
10 - Wayne McDonald
11 - Jordan James
12 - Oliver Wilkes
13 - Tim Jonkers'"

Swap James for Botham and you have nailed it.

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