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| Kevin Sinfield of the Leeds Rhinos has been nominated for the main award for this years Sports Personality of the year award and he is also the first ever RL player to be nominated for this prestigious award
Would you put your personal club rivalry aside and vote for him?
It would be great publicity for our sport if he did win it although i often think that the voting is rigged for this award
The Rhinos must have had a chance of Team of the year prior to Andy Murray winning the Davis Cup for himself,I mean GB
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| Not a chance he will win, Hamilton for me
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| Sinfield has zero chance due to limited profile and not an elitist sport.
Jessica Ennis will likely win as her achievements are significant and she's well liked.
Tyson Fury would get my vote as what he has done in beating a super champion in his own back yard is massive. The U.K. Now has a heavyweight champion that is pretty much undisputed - first time since Lewis. His personality is marmite though.
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| It would be deserved if Sinfield could win but there is no chance unless everyone with the slightest interest in R L voted for him. Fury complete c@ck but well done in pulling off the biggest upset of the year, but when you see Davis cup getting more coverage before they actually won it shows which sports the media prefer to champion.
Has anyone with a personality actually won it?
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| Quote: stpatricks "
Has anyone with a personality actually won it?'"
Flintoff and Gazza are the only ones who spring to mind from my time of watching
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Flintoff and Gazza are the only ones who spring to mind from my time of watching'"
Well, I'd argue that Hamilton is his own man, but I don't count Scalexctric as a sport.
Sinfield might well be one of the better players the sport has had, but you could just as easily say he's been very successful just hanging on to others' coat-tails. Nothing really to boast about when it comes to England (or GB), and I actually rate Peacock way higher in the Leeds pantheon.
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| Quote: CyberPieMan "Well, I'd argue that Hamilton is his own man, but I don't count Scalexctric as a sport.
Sinfield might well be one of the better players the sport has had, but you could just as easily say he's been very successful just hanging on to others' coat-tails. Nothing really to boast about when it comes to England (or GB), and I actually rate Peacock way higher in the Leeds pantheon.'"
I agree with regards to England but there's no way he hasn't been a major part of Leeds' success. His 40-20 basically putting them in the Grand Final this season being a prime example.
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| Quote: Grimmy "I agree with regards to England but there's no way he hasn't been a major part of Leeds' success. His 40-20 basically putting them in the Grand Final this season being a prime example.'"
Yup - but that's my point. Unless everyone's saying that he single-handedly won everything for them.
What bothers me more, is whether pork-lover-Dave is having his ear bent by anyone to bump up the MBE to anything higher - Gods forbid.
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| The achievements of Tyson Fury, Andy Murray and Jessica Ennis rather put those of Sinfield in the shade.
Winning the Heavyweight Championship of the World is still a great achievement, even in the days of multiple titles. Fury also has a more than interesting personality, if that counts for anything (it seems not to).
Murray is a one-off, playing in an era of great players, he's still won his share of titles.
Ennis is once again the greatest female athlete in the world after taking a few years off. So Sinny really has no chance.
However, that said, I'd have thought that Leeds would have a pretty good chance of Team of the Year.
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| Well, as a rugby league fan, i will be putting my sport first, not looking for negatives, and voting for Mr Sinfield.. Who also happens to be a fellow Lancastrian.
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| Quote: CyberPieMan "Well, I'd argue that Hamilton is his own man, but I don't count Scalexctric as a sport.
Sinfield might well be one of the better players the sport has had, but you could just as easily say he's been very successful just hanging on to others' coat-tails. Nothing really to boast about when it comes to England (or GB), and I actually rate Peacock way higher in the Leeds pantheon.'"
You could say that if you choose to ignore that he was the captain of the side (the most successful there will probably ever be in SuperLeague, the leader, one of the major creative forces in the side, the best kicker in the game, the man who set the tone for the big games, dictated the pace of the big games and generally controlled the big games. If you ignore all that then yes, he was pretty much living off the achievements of others.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "You could say that if you choose to ignore that he was the captain of the side (the most successful there will probably ever be in SuperLeague, the leader, one of the major creative forces in the side, the best kicker in the game, the man who set the tone for the big games, dictated the pace of the big games and generally controlled the big games. If you ignore all that then yes, he was pretty much living off the achievements of others.'"
Crikey - get a room. You [ido [/iunderstand the concept of dispassionate analysis?
I'm not doing him down, just pointing out that there have been (and still are) some pretty good players at Leeds that might have a lesser (media) profile (or just not as pretty - I mean Peacock's never going to win a place in Vogue) but might deserve similar accolades. For example, much as I hate the little ferret, Burrow because he's bl**dy difficult to stop, does he not merit equal praise?
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| Quote: CyberPieMan "Crikey - get a room. You [ido [/iunderstand the concept of dispassionate analysis?
I'm not doing him down, just pointing out that there have been (and still are) some pretty good players at Leeds that might have a lesser (media) profile (or just not as pretty - I mean Peacock's never going to win a place in Vogue) but might deserve similar accolades. For example, much as I hate the little ferret, Burrow because he's bl**dy difficult to stop, does he not merit equal praise?'" No - Sinfield ran the show on the field, ran the show off the field. He was the leader, the game manager, the tactician; the other players did essentially what he said and ran the game to the tempo he set. He was by some distance the biggest single factor in Leeds winning anything and everything over the past 12 years.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "No - Sinfield ran the show on the field, ran the show off the field. He was the leader, the game manager, the tactician; the other players did essentially what he said and ran the game to the tempo he set. He was by some distance the biggest single factor in Leeds winning anything and everything over the past 12 years.'"
He definitely was and any player who was involved in Leeds' successes says as much. Most players being named captain basically means a 'C' next to your name on the team sheet and means you're the one who speaks to the ref. Sinfield as captain it was so much much more than that but you really have to look closely at games to see it as it isn't blinding in your face as a Rangi Chase magic pass for example. One poster says Sinfield possibly hung onto the coat-tails of other players.....I say those players wouldn't have been anywhere as good had they not had him as their captain and leading the team they were in. Who left Leeds during Sinfield's era and was just as good (or better) a player elsewhere? Perhaps only Gareth Ellis.
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| We should call the pope....
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