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Starting for England Yawnion against the ozzies this weekend.Its not a good feeling when homegrown players leave but I'm a always glad when they do well,so well done Joel and I hope he does well.

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Quote: CobraCraig "Starting for England Yawnion against the ozzies this weekend.Its not a good feeling when homegrown players leave but I'm a always glad when they do well,so well done Joel and I hope he does well.'"


Is that now 3 Wiganers in the squad plus a coach?

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And the fitness coach, Paul Stridgeon

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A very talented player, he's just what we need off the bench for England at the moment IMO

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3 wiganers in the England RU side. Don't know whether that's a good or bad thing.

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To have 3 young lads leaving to Union for me is a bad thing,but it shows how strong Wigan/rugby league is when within 2 years they are in the England side.

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I'd be surprised if he gets more then 3 or 4 touches.

Hope it's not too cold for him.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I'd be surprised if he gets more then 3 or 4 touches.'"


Agreed and yet I just heard his snivelling interview on Radio 2 in which he says it's going to be a 'big step up from international rugby league' icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: miscreant "Agreed and yet I just heard his snivelling interview on Radio 2 in which he says it's going to be a 'big step up from international rugby league' In monetary terms maybe.
BTW, anyone hear Clive Woodward on 5Live last night? Let slip he'd been "watching" Sam before he finally decided on NRL. Who was he scouting for do we think?

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They all play a significant part in the booming England set up, a lot of stuart lancaster coaching has a big rugby league background to it as well. will be interesting to see if Joel can establish him self as first team regular for England as they do have a lot of good up coming .

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Quote: miscreant "Agreed and yet I just heard his snivelling interview on Radio 2 in which he says it's going to be a 'big step up from international rugby league'
They all say that, its like they don't want to upset somebody or some organization i wonder who that is? icon_lol.gif . Sonny bill William's has on record said rugby league is tougher no doubt in 2 years he will reverse that comment.

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Quote: CyberPieMan "In monetary terms maybe.
BTW, anyone hear Clive Woodward on 5Live last night? Let slip he'd been "watching" Sam before he finally decided on NRL. Who was he scouting for do we think?'"


The RFU for a centrally funded contract, they would of loved to take rugby league poster boy again.

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Quote: miscreant "Agreed and yet I just heard his snivelling interview on Radio 2 in which he says it's going to be a 'big step up from international rugby league' icon_rolleyes.gif

I know RU players are full time these days but the game just has too many stoppages while they set the scrums umpteen times, take line outs and kick penalties for it to me more intense. Plenty of opportunities to rest.

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Quote: DaveO "I thought I had heard that incorrectly so I am glad someone else mentioned it. If I remember rightly didn't he say a big step up in[i intensity[/i?

If so Sam should put him in his place! A big step up intensity from playing the Aussies in an RL test match or world cup? Yeah right.
i noticed Joel Tomkins body shape is a lot different from his last season at wigan just doesn't look as muscular, there is some big bodies playing in union but fitness wise it will never be on the same level.

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Quote: dubairl "i noticed Joel Tomkins body shape is a lot different from his last season at wigan just doesn't look as muscular, there is some big bodies playing in union but fitness wise it will never be on the same level.'"


Not sure of the exact figures but isn't the average actual ball in play time for RU something like 30-35 minutes, compared to something like 55 minutes for RL. Not sure how standing round for an extra 20 minutes leads to extra intensity?

All the focus seems to have been on Joel in the last couple of days, yesterday on Radio 1 sport news there was an interview with both Tomkins' and the questioning to Joel was mostly if Sam would be jealous of him playing at Twickenham.

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