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| I know I am starting to sound like a broken record but tonight showed just how influential and important they are, despite what Wane and some fans think about our revolutionary style.
Until Clubb and the outstanding Tautai came on Mossop and Crosby were getting smashed all over, we were on the backfoot and looked destined for another flat lethargic loss.
Clubb came on and started to dominate, Tautai came on, came up with an error but then played like I always hoped he could for Wigan. Outstanding go forward big defence energy intensity and genuine impact, comfortably MOTM for me even though he did t register big minutes.
Clubb and Tautai went off Crosby and Patrick come back on and Hudds get a foothold back in the match, a breakaway try off a Hudds mistake probably wins the game for us and to be fair Mossop had a good final spell.
It is however not rocket science or coincidence that when our Props go forward we are a significantly more organised higher quality side.
On tonight's performance a player I used to rate highly I think will struggle to make an impact at Wigan going forward in Crosby and Mossop really needs to lift it. Patrick needs to go.
Hopefully Tautai will now kick on and show the fans how good he can be.
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| Mossop is not Wigan standard, we should have left well alone
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| Tautai needs to straighten up his running and be more direct for me.
His leg drive in the tackle is superb, but i feel he could be smarter leading up to impact. Whilst i am not against big blokes with good footwork, i much prefer to see big bloke run hard and fast into the collision.
Mossop is a shadow of the player he was 4 years ago. I used to rave to fellow fans that i had never seen him driven back in the tackle. Nowadays its the rule and not the the exception so see him put on his backside.
Tony Clubb is the best Prop at the club at the moment.
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| Quote: The Mustard Tiger "Mossop is not Wigan standard, we should have left well alone'"
I think he has it in him to be Wigan standard. Hes just not showing anything like it at the moment or at any point since returning.....
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| Tautai recovered very well from two errors in his first two touches (he was totally switched off for that first ball from Lockers). He always runs the ball well but he needs to get rid of those dozy errors.
I said yesterday that with the right props around him and some fitness work I believe he can turn round an up and down start to his Wigan career.
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| Mossops first spell was poor but his second spell pretty good I thought.
Clubb and Flower would be my starters going forward with Tautai and Mossop from the bench.
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| Must have watched a different game - I thought Mossop was better tonight. I didn't particularly notice Clubb and I thought Tautai was OK nothing more.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Must have watched a different game - I thought Mossop was better tonight. I didn't particularly notice Clubb and I thought Tautai was OK nothing more.'"
Watch the game again. The minute we rotate Props the game changes.
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| Plenty of aggression in Clubb and Tautai, think we need to spell those alongside workhorses like Mossop and Flower and let them get on with their work.
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| Tautai is improving, but we've had plenty better than him, even if he continues to improve a little more. In a better pack I don't think anyone would be talking him up.
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| I agree with Jonh. I am sure the errors Tauati made will be mentioned but the first wasn't all his fault as the pass from Lockers was poor. Him and Clubb took the game to Hudds whereas I felt Mossop and Cosby lacked aggression.
Where was Flower? If not injured one of Cosby or Mossop has to make way next week. Not sure which one. Mossop had a better second spell but I think he's not very consistent.
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| Quote: jonh "Watch the game again. The minute we rotate Props the game changes.'"
Agreed, and Paul Anderson conceded exactly that point in his post-match analysis, saying that our bench was beter than theirs (I'd include Powell in that, too, who I thought had a pretty good game.)
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Quote: jonh "Watch the game again. The minute we rotate Props the game changes.'"
Stats here.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/11937
To be fair to the starting props they were on the field when we conceded those four penalties in a row, giving us little or no ball.
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Quote: jonh "Watch the game again. The minute we rotate Props the game changes.'"
Stats here.
www.superleague.co.uk/report/11937
To be fair to the starting props they were on the field when we conceded those four penalties in a row, giving us little or no ball.
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| I would like to see the minutes played for the props last night they did seem to share the workload, Clubb seemed to have been on longer than he has been since his injury. Tautai played with more control apart from one own half offload which did come off. Patrick looked eager. I hope its a sign of things to come, add Flower and Bateman to the pack and it will improve.
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| Patrick has to go. I don't understand how he gets picked every week. IIRC he hasn't been dropped this season, if he's been fit he's played. Best dummy runner in the league!
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