The reason for our loss IMO. We had all the possession, all the territory yet chose on every occasion to kick the penalty instead of running it. Our lack of ambition and insistence on playing safety first rugby cost us tonight. Wire were on the rack a number of times in the secondhalf yet escaped each and every time by only conceding two points.

I don't know where the call's came from to kick the penalties but I'd be unhappy were it Wane, after all his speel on a more attack orientated Wigan. Had we got that tonight we'd have won.

They were incredibly poor calls. With both teams making so many errors field position was arguably more important than 2 points. Had we kept them under pressure we'd have scored but instead we took the 2 and predictably made errors (although not penalising a ball steal before their first try was a bit of luck) which led to tries.

I said this in another thread... guess i'll put it here.

"All I want to know is since when did our balls drop off? I seem to recall about eight years ago with the likes of Farrell, Lam, Newton and Radlinski etc. we ran the fookin' ball every time we got a penalty... kick to the corner and go for the try whilst we have momentum and confidence. Now every time we get a penalty we take the two... bit of a concern that we lack so much belief and confidence in running it. There's only a few occasions I would understand taking the two... either when it's close to half/full time or if you're struggling to even get over the opponents try-line, I didn't see either of those tonight... their defense wasn't all that and they conceded penalty after penalty. On numerous occasions we opted to take the two and we had an enormous amount of possession during the game. If I want to see kick after kick i'll get myself down to Sale Sharks... time to man up, grow a pair and put some fear into the opposition. Teams must be bloody celebrating every time we go for the two... it completely takes the pressure off the side and the ball ends up on the other side of the field for very little gain."

At 20 v 18 up we did choose to run the ball but unfortunately Tommy lost the bl**dy thing early in the tackle count.

lots of reasons for our loss, two points, pats injury, briers being offside, stupid f*cking penalties... but hey its swings and roundabouts, no big deal, all that matters now is Salford next week

and yet if we'd have gone for two when lulu knocked on we might have won

Might be in the minority but I thought they were the right calls. In a tight game like that you've got to take the points on offer. It put us in front and kept the pressue on Wire to score.

We scored 6 points from penalties and so did Wire.

In a tight game........take your points when you can.

we took them when the points were vital though.... you took 2 in the first half when you had us on the rack, then we scored a few mins later after the kick off.

you lost momentum with that 2 points in the first half,

I think the two easy ones that Josh took were the right call, if only to give him some practice and get some confidence back after missing two difficult ones. I'd have run that first one, though, I agree.

We didn't have you on the rack IMO. You're defence was pretty solid in that first 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see us scoring (mainly because you can read most of our plays in advance).

Something we have done since Dobson arrived in Wigan.

When you have the other team on the backfoot, play on.

this.

looked like you had us on the rack to me.

The one at the very start was baffling from a Wire point of view. We gave you back possession about three times on the bounce, the last set you were quite close to getting through then you got a penalty and took the kick at goal. Ball went down the other end and Atkins blitzed you defence. I've never been a fan of taking the two, even if we did win by it tonight, for me making a side tackle you five times on their own line can be worth more in the long run, and there's always the chance you can score an actual try, you know, the aim. I can accept two pointers when it's close, during the last 5-10 mins or so, but never from the start.