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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



The poor crowd tonight must be a real worry for IL.

He failed to act early in the season to replace BN and clear out the backroom staff and many people are now voting with their feet.

If season ticket sales and crowd levels generally are to hold up next season IL is going to have to pull some rabbits out of his hat in terms of exciting coaching and player news.

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Not really, the crowds for all the playoff games have been low, just like they are in early Challenge Cup rounds. They always have been.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



We just won a play-off game! Lets celebrate!

All the games have been poor crowds, its nothing to shout about.

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The crowds for all the play off games have been really poor. I think it's got sod all to do with anything IL may or may not have done.

For me, 7pm on a Sunday evening when i've got the kids to sort out for school the next day was a crappy time for the game.

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All the play-off games have been poorly attended so far. I put that down to the fact season ticket holders had to buy tickets for this match and also the new format of the play-offs. You can't blame IL for that.

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[color=#000000:1qsyq8gi]Wigan Warriors 2010:[/color:1qsyq8gi] [color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions League Leaders Under 20's Champions Club of The Year Floodlit 9's Winners Pat Richards: Man Of Steel Sam Tomkins: Young Player of the Year Michael Maguire: Coach of the Year[/color:1qsyq8gi] [quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg



Probably the poorest turnout in 5 years yet still the 2nd highest attendance of the weekend. Worried? All it will take is a good bit of marketing.

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Quote: Agent Mulder "All the play-off games have been poorly attended so far. I put that down to the fact season ticket holders had to buy tickets for this match and also the new format of the play-offs. You can't blame IL for that.'"

Some already are......... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Games as big as Grand Finals define individuals and clubs. Remember, we only rent these journeys. In my time I had Pat Richard's shirt. Ellery Hanley had Sean O'Loughlin's jersey. Sam Tomkins is wearing Radders' number one jersey. Andy Coley is wearing Shaun Wayne's jersey. You have to make a mark in these shirts before you hand it down to someone else. Hand it back. So be aware for 80 minutes that you are not only playing, but you are also writing history and creating legacy. How many people actually write history - not many? A big stage demands big players…..INSPIRE YOUR TEAM MATES. Martin Offiah MBE, pre-Grand Final Speech, 2nd October 2010.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33718.jpg



The fickle season ticket holders wont pay, especially when its on telly.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Some interesting replies here but if the answer is that there's nothing to worry about then I hope you're right... but remain unconvinced...

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Quote: Mother Feka "Probably the poorest turnout in 5 years yet still the 2nd highest attendance of the weekend. Worried? All it will take is a good bit of marketing.'"


Our first sub 10,000 Crowd for a Super League game since July 2005.

But a positive spin - it was a bigger crowd than the 2002 home play off v Cas. icon_cool.gif

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Quote: TheSurgeon "The fickle season ticket holders wont pay, especially when its on telly.'"


Why Fickle?? short of money perhaps?

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Quote: TheSurgeon "The fickle season ticket holders wont pay, especially when its on telly.'"


Can you actually have a "fickle" season ticket holder? This season ticket holder was in attendance despite the heeeeuge £14 price tag on my ticket.

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I don't think its IL who needs to worry its the RFL. Its not good that these games attract so few speccies. I was quite shocked to be honest to see the empty spaces at the ground.

I must admit I thought twice about going mainly because of it being a Sunday and my son has to get up for school tomorrow but we went and we go back to Chester at 22:10 so it wasn't really a problem.

As a season ticket holder I do think we should get any home playoff games in with the price and if we did the crowds would easily be bigger. We had different people say next to us than usual so the two who have season tickets.

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Well my eldest has moved out to Uni today, many more will be in same boat. Hoping to see him next at Old Trafford!

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Quote: Rubber Buccaneer "Can you actually have a "fickle" season ticket holder? This season ticket holder was in attendance despite the heeeeuge £14 price tag on my ticket.'"


What i mean is, the fan who pays week in week out would have been there tonight, generally. I know season ticket holders who didn't go because 1) their ticket didn't get them in tonight, and 2) it was on telly.
They stayed in the pub all day watching Man Utd, then Chelsea, then Wigan.
Sad i know, but a fact.

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