Having just had a wander over to their board, are they at the point where we were under Mildred?

Loss of leadership, potential star off to RU, new coach, apathetic play and fans booing the team made that little bit worse by not having a home.

No not even close it'll take another two or three seasons of total mismanagement before that goal is achieved, but they are obviously working on it!

They are having the same problems as when Farrell, Newton, Radlinski, etc, began to leave.

Cunningham to return by mid season?

Here's to their success!

Most Real Wigan fans didn't boo the team they recognized that it wasn't especially the players fault, our attendances especially at away matches became more Vocal and Loyal

There are reports that they want Long back at 34 so probably Cunningham, no real surprise there!

Sounds like the ship is sinking and the lifeboats have long since departed!!

I'm not sure about that. I know a good few that did and include those that go to home and away games and have been watching since the 60s.

Under Mildred player power was used to get him out, 70/75 - 0. That's the players just not turning up and making any effort at all. For the players to allow 75-0 to happen against Saints absolutely deserved booing and do we really thing that essentially the same team about 2 months later were that much better?

I was at both them games and don't remember to much booing of the players but do remember though after the defeat at Saints that the Wigan End still had a huge number of fans after the final whistle. chanting Loyal Supporters etc..

I was there too!! And you are quite correct!

The only time I can remember a boo at the 75-0 game was when Mo's mug came on the big screen.

Long may the demise of Stains continue

I think Royce Simmons is doing an excellent job

6 thousand on last night as well

Are you latics in disguise?

Agent Simmons is already working his magic

Why they went for him the first place is the biggest mystery to me. His credentials are extremely poor. I very much doubt he was the best of the applicants to apply for the Saints job, yet somehow he got it. Still he's doing a cracking job for mine.

Loving every minute of it.

The only thing I can think is that Stains wanted an Australian Assistant coach to take over a Super League Team (wonder where they got that idea from). As they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Pity they have got it so wrong.

I think some people are jumping the gun a bit. Saints didn't look so bad against us on the opening day, did they?! Then they thrashed Salford, and lost narrowly to a very good Wolves team.

OK, they've limped a bit since then, with an unconvincing win against Catalans, and the loss last night to Quins (when they were very poor by all reports), but I can't see them playing like that every week, can you? They've still got some of the best players in SL, and if they can get Eastmond firing again (or someone else for that matter), then they'll still be challengers. Don't forget they've still got Roby - who may not give the team the pyschological boost that Cunningham did, but he's still easily the best hooker in SL (and was last year too).

Don't get me wrong, I won't be shedding any tears if they do fall apart - it's just that that's not what's happening - not yet anyway. This could easily turn out just to be a blip.

I think the clubs main priority over the past few years has been off the field, and it won't be until saints are in their new ground next year that they will properly start to rebuild and I think they are planning ahead to next year and beyond.

In saying that, the last couple of performances have been poor and Eastmond seems to be a distraction more than a help generally.

Even though I like the Saints getting some jip. I fear that their fan base might not recover like ours did.

Saints fans are few and fickle at the best of times, until they play us, then they appear out of the woodwork. A few more defeats like last nights and crowds of 2,000 might be the norm at Widnes.

That's not going to happen.

Remember that less than 1% of the crowd last night were away fans, and not many people would have bought tickets for the game.

ST Holders plus away fans will keep their average above what we saw on Friday.

I hope your right. Even though I revel in our rivalry, it would be a great shame if anything serious happened to the Saints. Not good for Rugby League.

Maybe but 3 or 4 seasons of them languishing at the bottom of the table wouldnt go amiss



I am remembering the glee from Stains fans, personal friends of mine, when we were getting beat 70-0 and 75-0 under Millward.

I am looking forward to payback

Of course. We remembered the 80s and early 90s so that was payback for us.

Doubt they will ever sink that low lol But sometimes miracles do happen