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Just seen a post on twitter:

5 x Super League Champion
4 x League Leaders Winner
3 x Challenge Cup Winner
2 x World Club Challenge Winner

That's some going (and very good chance of increasing this as well).

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A very special player who I don’t think we appreciate enough.

Seems to be a great captain too.

Wish more players were like him and SOL, Wiganers who just want to play for Wigan their whole careers then retire.

One of the most ridiculously consistent players we’ve ever had.

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Quote: NSW "A very special player who I don’t think we appreciate enough.

Seems to be a great captain too.

Wish more players were like him and SOL, Wiganers who just want to play for Wigan their whole careers then retire.

One of the most ridiculously consistent players we’ve ever had.'"


And yet, he gets little or no recognition from opposition supporters. There are the odd ones who recognise what we see week in / week out

his try scoring record for a back row isnt too bad either (1 in every 2.5 games average over his career) and he has struck up great relationships with at least 3 different stand offs, who have been able to work with him and utilise the great lines he runs and put him through the gaps

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Yet he can't get a fair crack at the international scene.

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Quote: NSW "A very special player who I don’t think we appreciate enough.

Seems to be a great captain too.

Wish more players were like him and SOL, Wiganers who just want to play for Wigan their whole careers then retire.

One of the most ridiculously consistent players we’ve ever had.'"


Six times in the Super League dream team, the most for any second row forward, So underrated by many opposition fans.

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Quote: NSW "A very special player who I don’t think we appreciate enough.

Seems to be a great captain too.

Wish more players were like him and SOL, Wiganers who just want to play for Wigan their whole careers then retire.

One of the most ridiculously consistent players we’ve ever had.'"


Six times in the Super League dream team, the most for any second row forward, So underrated by many opposition fans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Lea ... ppearances


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Quote: sergeant pepper "Yet he can't get a fair crack at the international scene.'"


Wayne Bennett especially but also Wane in the series just gone should hang their heads in shame about the lack of caps Liam Farrell has but they have at least kept him fresh for us.

There's nothing better than having a lad who is one of the best second rowers you could wish to see being so humble and down to earth. He is quiet and balanced but an absolute machine on the field. He is our James Roby and will go down as a legend of the club when he retires.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "Wayne Bennett especially but also Wane in the series just gone should hang their heads in shame about the lack of caps Liam Farrell has but they have at least kept him fresh for us.

There's nothing better than having a lad who is one of the best second rowers you could wish to see being so humble and down to earth. He is quiet and balanced but an absolute machine on the field. He is our James Roby and will go down as a legend of the club when he retires.'"

He’s so modest that he’ll say he came into the team at the right time but he is a massive part of the success of the last 14 years.

I’m remember Hocks amazing 2012 season then he went I was a little worried about Farrell as the replacement but in 2013 I genuinely thought Farrell was a Man of Steel contender.

From 2013 to present day his game is just exactly the same, he’s had no bad years. Just runs brilliant lines, great support play, work rate is unbelievable and the heart of lion.

Hall of famer.

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Got a couple of friends from Wigan, When they ask why I watch Wigan on tv? my answer always is cause I enjoy watching Farrell. The guy is a machine and never gives in. True champion of a player (Hull fan)

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Outstanding player, loyal one club man and a credit to the game.

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He is that good he could get on the subs bench for the mighty Saints.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Yet he can't get a fair crack at the international scene.'"


I appreciate I’m going to get a panning for this but I just don’t see him as an International style second rower.

In SL he has been the best and most consistent secondrow of his generation in this comp.

His record speaks for itself.

As the old saying goes though styles make fights and I just don’t think his style translates well to the demands of the international
Game against the top teams.

His defensive effort was outstanding against Penrith, but as can be evidenced off that game he was playing against physically naturally more gifted players.

It’s exciting seeing these big athletic English secondrows coming through such as KPP, Nsemba, Walters etc. who can potentially bridge that gap. Give Farrell their natural genetics you have without doubt the best secondrow on the planet.

Some players in my opinion suit a certain comp. Farrell suits SL same could be said of Wellens and Rads great domestic players and players who rightly go down as club legends but maybe didn’t hit the heights in the International game because of certain limitations.

What Farrell has done and continues to achieve on the domestic stage is unbelievable, he’s a talisman for Wigan and deserves to be mentioned in the same conversations as the likes of Rads, Lockers and even Faz Sr for what they brought to this club and their longevity as consistency.

In my opinion though he doesn’t have the style to transfer his domestic success into an International successful style.

….puts on tin hat and takes cover.

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Quote: jonh "I appreciate I’m going to get a panning for this but I just don’t see him as an International style second rower.

In SL he has been the best and most consistent secondrow of his generation in this comp.

His record speaks for itself.

As the old saying goes though styles make fights and I just don’t think his style translates well to the demands of the international
Game against the top teams.

His defensive effort was outstanding against Penrith, but as can be evidenced off that game he was playing against physically naturally more gifted players.

It’s exciting seeing these big athletic English secondrows coming through such as KPP, Nsemba, Walters etc. who can potentially bridge that gap. Give Farrell their natural genetics you have without doubt the best secondrow on the planet.

Some players in my opinion suit a certain comp. Farrell suits SL same could be said of Wellens and Rads great domestic players and players who rightly go down as club legends but maybe didn’t hit the heights in the International game because of certain limitations.

What Farrell has done and continues to achieve on the domestic stage is unbelievable, he’s a talisman for Wigan and deserves to be mentioned in the same conversations as the likes of Rads, Lockers and even Faz Sr for what they brought to this club and their longevity as consistency.

In my opinion though he doesn’t have the style to transfer his domestic success into an International successful style.

….puts on tin hat and takes cover.'"


i think thats a fair assessment and if you think that a couple of international coaches havent picked him, may also explain why. When it comes to 2nd row i think with the exception of Bateman (who has been shifted to centre often) , they are generally of the ilk of the other players you described (Ellis, Whitehead, Faz, Scully, Peacock and Morley before moving to prop), so quite a bit more imposing than Farrell

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Quote: jonh "I appreciate I’m going to get a panning for this but I just don’t see him as an International style second rower.

In SL he has been the best and most consistent secondrow of his generation in this comp.

His record speaks for itself.

As the old saying goes though styles make fights and I just don’t think his style translates well to the demands of the international
Game against the top teams.

His defensive effort was outstanding against Penrith, but as can be evidenced off that game he was playing against physically naturally more gifted players.

It’s exciting seeing these big athletic English secondrows coming through such as KPP, Nsemba, Walters etc. who can potentially bridge that gap. Give Farrell their natural genetics you have without doubt the best secondrow on the planet.

Some players in my opinion suit a certain comp. Farrell suits SL same could be said of Wellens and Rads great domestic players and players who rightly go down as club legends but maybe didn’t hit the heights in the International game because of certain limitations.

What Farrell has done and continues to achieve on the domestic stage is unbelievable, he’s a talisman for Wigan and deserves to be mentioned in the same conversations as the likes of Rads, Lockers and even Faz Sr for what they brought to this club and their longevity as consistency.

In my opinion though he doesn’t have the style to transfer his domestic success into an International successful style.

….puts on tin hat and takes cover.'"


I agree - Farrell's best assets are his fitness and his running lines in broken play. He's never run over the top of players - I assume the reason he backs into tackles so often is because he thinks he'll get pushed back. Maybe you don't get quite as much broken play at international level and there's more value placed on players who are bigger, more physical and more likely to rack up some post contact metres.

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Have a watch of Frano Botica on Wigan tv Legends night. He was asked who had impressed him most whilst he had been at Wigan this week.

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Regardless of what people think might happen, my original statement is still correct. Faz hasn't had a fair crack at the international scene.

He's had a handful of caps in meaningless games. There's no way anyone can say if he'd be a success or not.

What is undeniable, is that he's been consistently successful for well over a decade.

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