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I've got to say that I found Jackson Hastings' mooning like a love sick teenager over Salford nauseating last night. Enough already! He needs to decide which club he plays for because last night was disrespectful to this great club and it's fans.

Walking back like he'd just run over his own dog after his try was disgraceful and pushing away team mates who were trying to congratulate him was just not acceptable. He seems more concerned with remaining a few thousand Salford fan's pin-up boy than doing what's best for Wigan.

Games, especially tight games, are often won and lost by the extra 1 percents. The extra desire, the extra effort and the extra mental toughness. Last night was one such game but, unfortunately, the players showing those extra 1 percents were in Salford colours. Jackson Hastings helped facilitate this.

He said that the team "parked the bus". Well, when a bus gets parked it's usually the bus driver that does the parking and, for Wigan, the 'bus driver' is Jackson Hastings. When we went ahead he thought we were comfortable and, rather than humiliate his former team, decided that was enough. His former team, on the other hand, were happy to humiliate him. Man of Steel? I didn't see much steel in his attitude last night!

I said on another thread that we'd miss Zak Hardaker and never was this clearer than last night. There you have someone who is proud to wear the shirt. I'm sure he has a soft spot for Cas and Leeds but when he plays for us there is only one badge on his chest and that badge says Ancient and LOYAL. Hastings could do with reading it next time he pulls on the shirt.

I'm not usually one for bagging individual players and I like Hastings. However last night's attitude was a disgrace and no way to go into a top flight sporting contest. His attitude set the tone. Salford wanted it more and it showed.

He needs to work out where his LOYALties lie.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I've got to say that I found Jackson Hastings' mooning like a love sick teenager over Salford nauseating last night. Enough already! He needs to decide which club he plays for because last night was disrespectful to this great club and it's fans.

Walking back like he'd just run over his own dog after his try was disgraceful and pushing away team mates who were trying to congratulate him was just not acceptable. He seems more concerned with remaining a few thousand Salford fan's pin-up boy than doing what's best for Wigan.

Games, especially tight games, are often won and lost by the extra 1 percents. The extra desire, the extra effort and the extra mental toughness. Last night was one such game but, unfortunately, the players showing those extra 1 percents were in Salford colours. Jackson Hastings helped facilitate this.

He said that the team "parked the bus". Well, when a bus gets parked it's usually the bus driver that does the parking and, for Wigan, the 'bus driver' is Jackson Hastings. When we went ahead he thought we were comfortable and, rather than humiliate his former team, decided that was enough. His former team, on the other hand, were happy to humiliate him. Man of Steel? I didn't see much steel in his attitude last night!

I said on another thread that we'd miss Zak Hardaker and never was this clearer than last night. There you have someone who is proud to wear the shirt. I'm sure he has a soft spot for Cas and Leeds but when he plays for us there is only one badge on his chest and that badge says Ancient and LOYAL. Hastings could do with reading it next time he pulls on the shirt.

I'm not usually one for bagging individual players and I like Hastings. However last night's attitude was a disgrace and no way to go into a top flight sporting contest. His attitude set the tone for mine. Salford wanted it more and it showed.

He needs to work out where his LOYALties lie.'"


I've actually been really impressed by Hastings commitment and enthusiasm this season. Along with ZH he's been a great at getting the team going and celebrating every try. Look again at the Marshall wonder try and see who the first man in and what his reaction is.

For me there's nothing wrong with being respectful to a club that helped turn his life around. Salford, Watson and the owners played a massive part in his rehabilitation. This isn't your normal player Vs ex club thing.

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Absolute e. Plenty of players don't celebrate when they score against former clubs. If he was that big a Salford fan he'd have knocked on over the line.

What was nauseating was Sky going on about it as though he's the only player to ever play against his former club but as pepper says they did help turn his life around.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "I've actually been really impressed by Hastings commitment and enthusiasm this season. Along with ZH he's been a great at getting the team going and celebrating every try. Look again at the Marshall wonder try and see who the first man in and what his reaction is.

For me there's nothing wrong with being respectful to a club that helped turn his life around. Salford, Watson and the owners played a massive part in his rehabilitation. This isn't your normal player Vs ex club thing.'"

I'm sorry but it's not acceptable. You're saying his commitment is fine as long as it isn't against Salford? Mate, that's just bs! What happens if we meet them in the playoffs, a final or a knockout game? Would this attitude sit ok with you then? He plays for Wigan. Mooning about like a love sick teenager for another club isn't acceptable. Commitment to the cause is everything and sets a tone. We lost last night because of it.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I've actually been really impressed by Hastings commitment and enthusiasm this season. Along with ZH he's been a great at getting the team going and celebrating every try. Look again at the Marshall wonder try and see who the first man in and what his reaction is.

For me there's nothing wrong with being respectful to a club that helped turn his life around. Salford, Watson and the owners played a massive part in his rehabilitation. This isn't your normal player Vs ex club thing.'"

I'm sorry but it's not acceptable. You're saying his commitment is fine as long as it isn't against Salford? Mate, that's just bs! What happens if we meet them in the playoffs, a final or a knockout game? Would this attitude sit ok with you then? He plays for Wigan. Mooning about like a love sick teenager for another club isn't acceptable. Commitment to the cause is everything and sets a tone. We lost last night because of it.'"


Sorry pal
The only BS is your post.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Absolute poop. Plenty of players don't celebrate when they score against former clubs. If he was that big a Salford fan he'd have knocked on over the line.

What was nauseating was Sky going on about it as though he's the only player to ever play against his former club but as pepper says they did help turn his life around.'"

There's a difference between not celebrating and pushing your own players away. What the hell is wrong with you? This is good enough for Wigan now? Mate, don't complain about anything else if this is good enough for you. Be happy that Salford are getting respect.

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Quote: Jukesays "Sorry pal
The only BS is your post.'"

Hey mate, as long as your happy. Enjoy the loss.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Hey mate, as long as your happy. Enjoy the loss.'"


Who said I was happy?

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Quote: Jukesays "Who said I was happy?'"

Well apparently our main playmaker being more concerned with the opposition is ok with you so I'm assuming you must be ok with us "parking the bus".

A serious question: Do you believe that attitude and mental strength are important at this level?

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It seems odd that the first game this season in which we see very little of Jackson Hastings is during his return to Salford.

But let's be honest, he wasn't the only one who went missing.

It was a poop show all round.

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Quote: Phuzzy "
There's a difference between not celebrating and pushing your own players away. What the hell is wrong with you? This is good enough for Wigan now? Mate, don't complain about anything else if this is good enough for you. Be happy that Salford are getting respect.'"


Pushing his own players away?

Is that worse than beating three Salford players on his way to score?

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Quote: Cruncher "It seems odd that the first game this season in which we see very little of Jackson Hastings is during his return to Salford.

But let's be honest, he wasn't the only one who went missing.

It was a poop show all round.'"


Apart from Havard and Farrell not a lot to like particularly in the 2nd half
2 losses from 3 away games and I wouldn’t be surprised to see that trend continue

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Pushing his own players away?

Is that worse than beating three Salford players on his way to score?'"


Let's ignore that bit though

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Quote: Phuzzy "There's a difference between not celebrating and pushing your own players away. What the hell is wrong with you? This is good enough for Wigan now? Mate, don't complain about anything else if this is good enough for you. Be happy that Salford are getting respect.'"


Again, plenty of players push their team mates away. The point is he still scored. I don't really care what he does after that.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Well apparently our main playmaker being more concerned with the opposition is ok with you so I'm assuming you must be ok with us "parking the bus".

A serious question

I've since hundreds of players in all sports do a similar thing, all of them are playing the game at an infinitely higher level than the likes of you and me ever will.

Now I'm going to be quite specific here so instead of of throwing headline grabbing statements out because your upset we lost and looking for someone to blame, try and answer them.

In what way did Hastings reaction after scoring affect anything about our performance when after 58mins or so we were still 14-2 up and should have been further.

When Powell scores hes 3rd man in celebrating

How did he alone specifically "Park the Bus"?
Is that not a team thing, a coaching thing?


Did every other Wigan player at 58mins turn round and say you know what, hastings not celebrating 40 minutes ago really peed me off so I'm going to miss one on tackles (harry smith) and basically lose all cohesion/shape etc.

Yes I do believe mental strength as a massive part to play, but just saying it and the aiming it at one thing and making it a direct correlation without any FACTS to support it doesnt make it correct.

Your braised off, trust me so am I, but hastings showing respect (I think that's how an earlier poster put it) and at the end of the game, when nothing else can be done etc showing respect to the Salford fans etc who he clearly has time for and understandably, had no bearing on his desire to win that game.

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