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I watched the game again focusing solely on Clark. He did ok. He put in some cracking hit ups running the ball in fast and hard and looked enthusiastic. I dont know why so many people are saying he was poor.

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I thought he was solid at the game without being spectacular. Plenty of enthusiasm and endeavour. Both he and Bullock were good for a first hit out and highlighted just what a waste of a jersey playing Clubb is. We have far better fighting for a place.

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I just wonder what we expected from him? When we bought him we were promised an uncompromising impact prop according to the management but he has seemed to be playing longer minutes in the reserves and showing a greater range of skills without being a big basher. He looks like he could play the role that Pettybourne and Tautai were unsucessfully used for allowing someone like Bullock to punch holes. He did well for a first outing.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



He’s warranted another outing that’s for sure. I’d like to see Liam Byrne brought back in to the mix in place of Lockers. Maybe a bench spot for Kilner too.

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He will get better and better, let’s judge him in a few month. Massive upgrades on Naverette imo

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Quote: NSW "He will get better and better, let’s judge him in a few month. Massive upgrades on Naverette imo'"


It’s a good way of looking at it really. If we say Navarette out and Clark in then I’m confident that will be a big improvement over time. George Burgess for Tautai should be a huge upgrade if he can get in decent shape and over this hip problem (or manage it as best he can). Add in Byrne and Partington being a year on in their development, Havard looking like he’s going to be a very good player and Jack Wells back as an option and we should be way in front of where we were at in that department last year.

Just need select the right ones now.

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I did say he was poor, perhaps in frustration at how we played in the main and the fact I didn’t notice him on the field. I’ve read people’s comments and despite not seeing/noticing him play I’ll take peoples word for it that he went well.

Strangely the players who go about their business quietly with little fuss or noticeable attributes tend to be some of the best.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "I did say he was poor, perhaps in frustration at how we played in the main and the fact I didn’t notice him on the field. I’ve read people’s comments and despite not seeing/noticing him play I’ll take peoples word for it that he went well.

Strangely the players who go about their business quietly with little fuss or noticeable attributes tend to be some of the best.'"


It was more a case of what bit he did looked very promising. The way he ran full steam into the Toronto defence was refreshing. He looked far from the finished product but definitely added some much needed physicality and intensity to our carries.

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For someone to hit the line like Clarke does he needs to make plenty metres after collision, Id love to see if anyone took these stats and could find who is the best in our team at this?

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Quote: post "For someone to hit the line like Clarke does he needs to make plenty metres after collision, Id love to see if anyone took these stats and could find who is the best in our team at this?'"

I'm sure somebody somewhere posted he made 60 metres from 6 tackles compared to Clubb doing only 12 metres for 6 tackles, Could be wrong though, It might be on Mikes site

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "I'm sure somebody somewhere posted he made 60 metres from 6 tackles compared to Clubb doing only 12 metres for 6 tackles, Could be wrong though, It might be on Mikes site'"


https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3119

Bottom of the page.

Clubb:

16 tackles
8 carries
47 yards
6 yards average

Clark:

15 tackles
6 carries
62 yards
10 yards average
Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "I'm sure somebody somewhere posted he made 60 metres from 6 tackles compared to Clubb doing only 12 metres for 6 tackles, Could be wrong though, It might be on Mikes site'"


https://www.superleague.co.uk/match-centre/report/3119

Bottom of the page.

Clubb:

16 tackles
8 carries
47 yards
6 yards average

Clark:

15 tackles
6 carries
62 yards
10 yards average


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Quote: Egg Chasing "https
How many of those tackles were first up?

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Quote: Levrier "How many of those tackles were first up?'"


It doesn't say

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Quote: Levrier "How many of those tackles were first up?'"


I appreciate how sad this is, but as BFUT is my pet hatr and I was off Friday I did my own stats.
First time I've ever done this so I'll post them.

But I'll tell you what, there is NO WAY, he made 16 tackles
He attempted less in my book and there was 2/3 where he came in 3rd/4th man in and AFTER the tackle was complete he put his hands on one of the other tackles back. I didnt count that as a tackle, as I didnt for all the other players.

Below is my commentary as I was doing it
1st 2 sets for both sides he makes 2 tackles and misses 1
Makes zero hit ups.

6 sets apiece 5 tackles (1miss)
2 hit ups
Were 11 mins in

In Toronto's 7th set on the 2nd tackle something really funny happens
Referee tells Tony Cpub hes offside and not to get involved in the tackle!!!!

Toronto Just had a penalty and a repeat set

So 9 sets in hes attempted 7 tackles
Missed 2
And 2 hit ups.
What I will say is hes been 3rd man and put his hand on the already tackled player about 4 times as well.

20th minute By the time of the first try
9 attempted tackles (3misses)
3 hit ups

From the kick off set he attempts 3 tackles and misses 1
And the goes off after 22 mins

So 12 attempts (4 misses)
3 hit ups after 22 mins

I took a break at that point!!!

Then 2nd half

Comes back on with 6mins 40secs left and makes 3 hit ups (albeit 15 yards from Toronto line) in next 90 seconds.
So doubles his hit ups in 90 seconds compared to first 22mins.

Then 2 more hit ups and 2 more tackles in last 4 mins.

So in his last 6 1/2 min spell he makes 5 hit ups and 2 tackles.

He must have good fitness levels as hes getting better as game goes on (or hes been sat on his arris that long hes fully recouped his energy)

Overall 29mins

14 attempted tackles (4 misses)
8 hit ups (5 of them in last 6 minutes 10 yards from Toronto line)

#Imnotobsessedwithbfut

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I then did the others
Heres my commentary as I was doing it

1st half
Bullock comes on and played 17mins makes 7 hit ups and 10 tackles (no misses)
Clarke plays 7mins makes 1 hit up and 9 tackles (no misses)

Compare that to BFUT
3 hit ups
8 tackles and 4 misses

What I will say is partington will have done double the amount of work as BFUT easily (not counted his 1st half stats though).

So I did Partingtons and Lockers 1st half

Partington 33mins
Hit ups 9
Tackles 23 (plus 1 miss)

Lockers 21mins
Hit ups 5
Tackles 19 (plus 1 miss)

The reply I got from one of the lads on the chat was :-

Partington made more tackles and carries on Thursday that Clubb has in all 3 games put gether.

He was right!!!

My final comment was this
Overall 29mins

14 attempted tackles (4 misses)
8 hit ups (5 of them in last 6 minutes 10 yards from Toronto line)

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From official site he attempted 16 tackles with 3 misses (they must count 4th man in and just putting your hands on the other tackles back as a Tackle!
But I wasnt far off

It was really interesting just watching individual players and not concentrate on the game as such.

I did Lockers and Partingon (and I'm not a massive Partington fan) as they were involved in everything that first 20mins
Dont forget Lockers acted as a pivot around 14/15 times as well as the above.

With regards to what I did I counted tackles and misses separately, I can only assume when it says Tony clubb 16 tackles that this includes the misses as well? There is absolutely zero way he made 16 tackles even if you include the 4th man in hand on the back tackles

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