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There appears to be talk of appointing Tony Smith to work alongside Lammy as a Director of Rugby. If the club are serious about this decision I think a better appointment would be Tim Sheens. His contract at KR ends this season. Thoughts anyone.

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I heard Smith’s role would be assistant coach which at first made me cringe. I thought about it for a bit and with Lammy’s enthusiasm and recent NRL coaching experience, Smith’s experiences in SL at different clubs added to Lockers to maintain and raise the bar on culture and standards off the field, it might not be a bad fit.
Regardless of anything, resources and recruitment will be the biggest factor in whether or not we succeed.

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Agree that recruitment is the first priority or at least it should be. We need a real high class replacement for Williams, at least two props and maybe a new hooker at the very least (maybe more if anyone else leaves such as Gildart).

Give Lam a well balanced squad to work with as a first priority before looking at anything else.

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "I heard Smith’s role would be assistant coach which at first made me cringe. I thought about it for a bit and with Lammy’s enthusiasm and recent NRL coaching experience, Smith’s experiences in SL at different clubs added to Lockers to maintain and raise the bar on culture and standards off the field, it might not be a bad fit.
Regardless of anything, resources and recruitment will be the biggest factor in whether or not we succeed.'"


It might make you cringe but that’s fair enough as you know nothing. You would rather have Lam who has taken the super league champions to relegation fodder in around 3 months. If I was Smith I would turn you down as he could do much better than a bottom 3 team lol

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "It might make you cringe but that’s fair enough as you know nothing. You would rather have Lam who has taken the super league champions to relegation fodder in around 3 months. If I was Smith I would turn you down as he could do much better than a bottom 3 team lol'"


Thanks for your interesting and insightful comments!

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "It might make you cringe but that’s fair enough as you know nothing. You would rather have Lam who has taken the super league champions to relegation fodder in around 3 months. If I was Smith I would turn you down as he could do much better than a bottom 3 team lol'"


You know that much you keep coming back under a new name after showing yourself up via the last one.

Regards

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Quote: Bigredwarrior "I heard Smith’s role would be assistant coach which at first made me cringe. I thought about it for a bit and with Lammy’s enthusiasm and recent NRL coaching experience, Smith’s experiences in SL at different clubs added to Lockers to maintain and raise the bar on culture and standards off the field, it might not be a bad fit.
Regardless of anything, resources and recruitment will be the biggest factor in whether or not we succeed.'"

Why does get a coaching role?
Jobs for the boys is one of the big reasons we are in this current state of shodyness

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Why does get a coaching role?
Jobs for the boys is one of the big reasons we are in this current state of shodyness'"


I assume you’re on about Lockers and if so, yes that’s right. Mullen choosing to drink and drive, Hamlin testing positive for banned substances is all down to Lockers (note the sarcasm)!
If for no other reason like his influence and leadership, he gets a coaching role because he’s contracted to it.

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As far as Tony Smith joining to be Director of Rugby is concerned, isn't that Kris Radlinski's job? His official title is 'Rugby Director'. What would that job be if not 'director of rugby'?

Assuming Radlinski's role isn't going to change the last thing we need is another cook to spoil the broth and go over the head of the coach.

If Lam is the right man for the job he won't need someone else to be brought in to work alongside him, he'll just work as our previous coaches have done. If the club don't think he can succeed then they should bring in someone who they think can.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "As far as Tony Smith joining to be Director of Rugby is concerned, isn't that Kris Radlinski's job? His official title is 'Rugby Director'. What would that job be if not 'director of rugby'?

Assuming Radlinski's role isn't going to change the last thing we need is another cook to spoil the broth and go over the head of the coach.

If Lam is the right man for the job he won't need someone else to be brought in to work alongside him, he'll just work as our previous coaches have done. If the club don't think he can succeed then they should bring in someone who they think can.'"

Agreed,the only way a director of rugby would works as if Rads leaves his role after all he brings the players in etc as we know.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "As far as Tony Smith joining to be Director of Rugby is concerned, isn't that Kris Radlinski's job? His official title is 'Rugby Director'. What would that job be if not 'director of rugby'?

Assuming Radlinski's role isn't going to change the last thing we need is another cook to spoil the broth and go over the head of the coach.

If Lam is the right man for the job he won't need someone else to be brought in to work alongside him, he'll just work as our previous coaches have done. If the club don't think he can succeed then they should bring in someone who they think can.'"


When Waney was coach everyone was screaming to bring in an attack coach, I think the opposite applies now I would like to see Waney come back as assistant to AL purely as a defence coach. Don't think for one minute he would accept that if offered to him though.

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "As far as Tony Smith joining to be Director of Rugby is concerned, isn't that Kris Radlinski's job? His official title is 'Rugby Director'. What would that job be if not 'director of rugby'?

Assuming Radlinski's role isn't going to change the last thing we need is another cook to spoil the broth and go over the head of the coach.

If Lam is the right man for the job he won't need someone else to be brought in to work alongside him, he'll just work as our previous coaches have done. If the club don't think he can succeed then they should bring in someone who they think can.'"


I’m not sure I could disagree with that last paragraph any more than I do.
Every club, in every sport changes their head coach at some point. In the vast majority of cases, they build a team around them according to their strengths. Shaun Wane had Deacon and Harris to help improve our attack. He brought in Charlie Hodgson to improve our kicking etc.
I have no doubts that Lammy is the right man to lead us from the top and part of that is trusting him to build the coaching team as well as the paying team.

Using your philosophy, no club would ever need assistant coaches!

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I don’t think a director of rugby would be a slight on Lam, it would more be a pointer to the work Kris Rads is doing on recruitment and retention, as that is surely a role any director of rugby would take on. I’ve said above that our first job has to be to look at our recruitment for 2020, because as things stand the squad looks like it could be in a shambolic state for next season unless major moves are made and things like retirements are put to bed soon (and not at the end of the year).

Maybe they want a director of rugby to work on that now but if they do then they need to get him in pronto.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "It might make you cringe but that’s fair enough as you know nothing. You would rather have Lam who has taken the super league champions to relegation fodder in around 3 months. If I was Smith I would turn you down as he could do much better than a bottom 3 team lol'"


What an idiot!

On the Smith discussion we don’t need him.

We just need a good coach. Wether it be Lam I’m not sure.

If we win today we are 4 points off top 4. We the injuries and off field issues has Lam done such a bad job?

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "It might make you cringe but that’s fair enough as you know nothing. You would rather have Lam who has taken the super league champions to relegation fodder in around 3 months. If I was Smith I would turn you down as he could do much better than a bottom 3 team lol'"


You really need to stop this pathetic trolling, mate.

The fact that Saints fans were nowhere in sight on here until Wigan started losing only makes you look more of a berk.

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