We've had a night to sleep on it. What is the answer? I do not think the magic sponge will do the trick.

Humility might be one option, give praise where its due

What now? I'd say nothing really. We put it down to a bad day at the office and move on. We all know the circumstances of the missing players and we are all painfully aware that we are lacking creativity. We get players back, we can't get worse so must get better! It's just about perspective and whilst it may be sad, the standard of SL is such that we will not be far off when the pots are handed out. Let's just see how we go on Friday!

At a bare minimum, we need to try something different in the halves.

We won't recall Hampshire and he will have a stormer on Friday.

^ This

Well he's certainly due a stormer, because he hasn't had one for about 2 years...

I don't think there's any easy answer to the OP's question. In the short term we can't panic and as bad as the result was yesterday there have been some way OTT reactions. We shouldn't be getting nilled or shipping 60 odd points against anyone but with the amount of salary cap sat on the sidelines plus the bug that went round disrupting training yesterday was never going to go well IMO. Start getting a few bodies back over the next few weeks and things start looking better already. For all the hysteria around a very bad performance (credit to Wakey by the way - no sour grapes/excuses here) we're still 2 points off top.

Long term I think there are definitely fundamental issues regarding recruitment, coaching, training etc that we're not getting right. I don't think there's an easy fix tbh.

We had 10 players out and the ones that played didnt do anything but a team run on saturday

Sounds like a plan to get players back and not be ill so we can so training in the week?

There were 13 players in the side at Wakey who are part of our 25 nominated first team players including six England internationals. We may have 10 out technically but since we can't take 23 first team players to a game and we know MM is out for the season and Sam T wasn't due back this "we had 10 out" reads lamer every time I see it mentioned.

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We will be fine. Lets not pretend there is a crisis.

I'd say we definitely have 9 players out and possibly 10 if Crosby is included at the expense of Sutton. I'm not sure why mentioning that is 'Lame'.

Dan Sarginson - TOMKINS
Lewis Tierney - MANFREDI
Jack Higginson - GELLING
Oliver Gildart
Josh Charnley
Nick Greyson - WILLIAMS
Matty Smith
Tony Clubb
Sam Powell - McILLORUM
Lee Mossop
Joel Tomkins
Willie Isa - FARRELL
Ryan Sutton - O'LOUGHLIN

Taulima Tautai
Greg Burke - BATEMAN
Joe Bretherton - FLOWER
Jack Wells - CROSBY????

IMO 9 or 10 of those players would make our best 17 if fit (with the possible exception of Crosby depending on form), it's a perfectly valid point. In fact we weren't far off having a better team in the stands than on the pitch! What is apparent is that Smith, Mossop and J.Tomkins won't step up when the usual leaders (Lockers, McIlorum, S.Tomkins) are missing. Particularly disappointing given pre-season was supposedly ed around developing leaders

Seems that a virus has laid most of the squad low.... www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016- ... s-reflects Worth a listen... Apologies to Suzy Banyon, who has already posted this link...

Seems that a virus has laid most of the squad low.... www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2016- ... s-reflects Worth a listen... Apologies to Suzy Banyon, who has already posted this link...

It's been the same all year. It's a crime to state injruies as an excuse for us looking rusty but winning. Those injuries have now gone on to a totally different level and whilst you can't excuse a defeat of that proportion there's no need to start thinking we're dead in the water this season with no hope when we have an absolute mountain of quality players to come back.

The big issue for me isn't the quantity of injuries, it's the quality. I would litterally say we have our best 7 or 8 players missing. If we had 10 players out but it was a mixture of lads like Lockers and Sam Tomkins along with some younger players or edge squad players like Burke and Isa we'd cope much much better but the heart has literally been ripped out of the side. It feels as though our main attacking weapons, our most aggressive players, our leaders, our main metre makers and so on are all sat in the stands at the minute and that's because they are.

Is it excuses? Maybe but it's also the facts. I'll wait to see what happens with a first choice (ish) line up before passing too many judgements.