FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > When Sam Tomkins is fit...
40 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3003
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Who's position is under threat ?
Before a ball had been kicked I think everyone would have said Tierney but he seems (IMO) to be getting better with every game while our half-backs to be blunt are offering nothing at the moment.
Sam to 6 and Smith/Williams fighting for the 7 shirt ?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: apollosghost "Who's position is under threat ?
Before a ball had been kicked I think everyone would have said Tierney but he seems (IMO) to be getting better with every game while our half-backs to be blunt are offering nothing at the moment.
Sam to 6 and Smith/Williams fighting for the 7 shirt ?'"


Don't be silly, all the wet willies on here have already written his career off... Get with the program, and be depressed...

Sam to cover all positions in training, see where we are when he is back. Williams the most likely to be worried, stability of Smith would be needed with Sam's return at the moment.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7648
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
17555_1637667680.png
Wigan RLFC:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17555.png



Depending on McIlorum's fitness & Powell's form, how about Smith to 9, Tomkins & Williams in the halves?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: CM Punk "Depending on McIlorum's fitness & Powell's form, how about Smith to 9, Tomkins & Williams in the halves?'"


I'd go for that, as i said, we would need to see where we are when he becomes available.... I'm a fan of Williams, but form a little sluggish at the moment... Early season tho, and he made a couple of good breaks against Salford, who were MUCH vaunted at the start of the season.

RankPostsTeam
International Star7580
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



He's still about 6 weeks away isn't he? Might as well wait until then to decide... form is only temporary.

Just on Tierney, agree he has far exceeded expectations. Just needs to improve his support play. We made a few breaks against Salford and he was nowhere to be seen, but that will come in time I suspect. Bringing the ball out, under the high ball and in defence he has been great. Probably my MoM on Thursday.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1855No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 20169 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



If Tierney continues the way he has started Wane has an interesting decision. I'd have a think about Williams to hooker. Smith has not played well since Green left and he has shouldered all the responsibility, I think a halves partnership of Smith and Tomkins could work very well.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201510 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
73327_1685730441.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73327.jpg



Maybe. I still think Williams is a real talent; he had a slow start to last season, but came good. And, as noted, even though he was very poor against Salford, he still made some telling breaks. And it's not like our team is full of players who can do that.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1227
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2024Jan 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



For me if his form stays and lets be fair he's still young he will make mistakes i'd keep Teirney at full back and give Williams a rest he is so out of sorts and again we forget hes still young rest him and let his for reappear

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach6124No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10174_1376908073.png
23 - 20 - 4 Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10174.png



1 Manfredi

2 Charnley
3 Gelling
4 Sarginson
5 Gildart

6 Tomkins
7 Smith

9 Williams

Tbf though, I don't like Williams at 9, but Manfredi at 1 could be box office.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201410 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2019Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Still think his best position i easily in the halves, putting him at fullback has actually probably hampered his potential to become a world class half
He isnt comfortable under high balls and can be a turnstile in defence (how is his defensive organisation btw? Ive only seen him live 5-6 times), if Tierney or who ever is better at that stuff then surely 6/7 is his best choice
Your only worry might be his kicking game after 4-5 years at fullback, but Darren Lockyer and Anthony Milford did it fine, and the way Sky go on about him hes obviously better than them right? icon_lol.gif

You guys are aways complaining about smith right? Why not see if Williams has what it takes to run games?

NSW
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4046No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
27542_1296773722.jpg
RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Criticism of Williams is well overblown, remember he had a shorten offseason cause of England commitments. He'll get it sorted. When all are fit,

Tomkins
Manfredi
Gelling
Sarginson
Charnley
Williams
Smith

Sorted, Sam being back will be huge. Leadership, organisational, xfactor.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15453
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



I'd go:

FB 22 Tierney
RW 5 Manfredi
RC 3 Gelling
LC 20 Gildart
LW 2 Charnley
SO.1 S.Tomkins
SH 6 Williams

H 13 O'Loughlin

S 7 Smith

Nothing against Sarginson, just think he's our third best centre on form. Smith average at best at SH but I think he would be an improvement on Powell as a bench hooker. He played well at 9 for ua when he first signed

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9514
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13145_1273270974.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13145.jpg



Definitely Tomkins to full back for me, although Tierney is doing well and improving.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29773
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10919_1322084665.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg



I think our whole game plan in attack revolves around having a creator at full back as well as a player that will offer his own running threat. That is why I'm convinced we'll see Tomkins back at 1 and unless we change the way we play it's the correct call IMO. When he is back I expect to see other players games improve because he's the type of player that brings out the best in those around him.

Great to have options though.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4784No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I think our areas of improvement need to come from:
creative roles within the team (1, 6,7,9)
pack leader, i.e. a big powerful experience prop

Tomkins will provide the 'x factor' from the back, he has to be played at FB. No one else in our team can come close to Sam, he needs to be played at FB given a free role to attack either flank running out wide either attacking the line or setting up his outside backs. At half back you're looking for someone to 'set up' other players/ball runners as a play maker, often only operating on one side of the pitch.

Who should be in the halves? Williams will come good. He's young, will attack the line and has a quick step. Smith, questionable. He's a good player but is he good enough? That's the debate. Hampshire? I don't get the hype to be honest, not in the senior team at least, if he would have impressed massively he wouldn't be bench warming at Cas.

I like Micky as a player, never been sold on him as a 9 though. I think he'd be a good 13, hardworking tackling machine and enforcer.

Tomkins
Charnley (although his 'facial injury' is an odd one') Sarge Gelling Manfredi
Williams (NEW 7)
Flower (NEW 9) Lockers
Bateman Faz
Micky
-----------------------------
NEW INTERCHANGE 9 NEW EXPERIENCE PROP Clubb, J Tomkins

40 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
40 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.0458984375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
Film game
Boss Hog
5617
13m
Rumours thread
LyndsayGill
2514
25m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
39m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63219
50m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rugbyleague8
6
Recent
Fixtures
Willzay
13
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40727
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Steve0
4009
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63219
42s
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
49s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rugbyleague8
6
57s
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
Pre Season - 2025
number 6
182
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
2m
Red Devils sign International forward
His Bobness
2
2m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
308
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
504
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1255
England's Women Demolish The W..
1079
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1318
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1108
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1364
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1910
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2128
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2372
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1945
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2179
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2646
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2074
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2152
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,804 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
Film game
Boss Hog
5617
13m
Rumours thread
LyndsayGill
2514
25m
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
39m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63219
50m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rugbyleague8
6
Recent
Fixtures
Willzay
13
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40727
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Steve0
4009
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63219
42s
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
49s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
rugbyleague8
6
57s
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
Pre Season - 2025
number 6
182
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
2m
Red Devils sign International forward
His Bobness
2
2m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
308
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
504
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1255
England's Women Demolish The W..
1079
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1318
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1108
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1364
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1910
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2128
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2372
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1945
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2179
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2646
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2074
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2152


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!