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| I'm sure there was a similar thread about this a few months ago but anyway, here goes.
Is anyone else getting worried with how Radlinski is managing the contracts at the club? It has been confirmed from Wane that it is Radlinski who deals with the contracts.
Latest problem now is that Bateman has been allowed to run his contract down and he now only has 12 months left. Do we cash in on him now to get a fee for him or let him go for free next October? I'd ideally like to see him sign an extension but I'm fairly confident he would have been offered one by now and there must be a reason he's not signed an extension.
Sarginson has also only got 12 months left so it sounds like Bath rugby Union wont even have to pay a fee for him either and whilst I'm happy to let players go if they want to leave I still think we should be getting a fee for players like Joe Burgess who was on a short termcontract as well.
This whole concept of signing players on short contracts has been a disaster alongside Radlinski giving players who dont warrant long contracts (Gelling, Smith, etc..) 4 year deals. This needs to be looked at by the club.
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| Imagine if we lost Bateman! I think I'd become pretty disillusioned with the club if that happens, even more so if it's to another superleague club.
I sincerely hope they get that sorted and sorted soon.
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| We'll have him please.
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| Quote: WireWireWire "We'll have him please.'"
Surprised you didn't get him when we did. I remember there being rumours about Wire being in for him a while before us and for decent money and then it fizzled away. It was pretty surprising when we got him especially at the price we paid. I think his injuries had taken a lot of his value off (as well as Bradfords financial troubles).
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| Bateman will get a long term deal, he isn't interested in an NRL move
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| Quote: bazdev "Bateman will get a long term deal, he isn't interested in an NRL move'"
He won't go to NRL, he has a young daughter. Super League clubs will have their eyes closely on him though.
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| You'd imagine the NRL is a no go due to his daughter. It leaves us with no excuse not to get a deal over the line if that's the case.
You'd imagine only Leeds, Wire or possibly Salford (if he crazy enough) would have the means to try and tempt him away. He doesn't seem overly popular at Leeds but I think they respect his ability.
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| I personally don't mind playersending leaving at the end of their contracts.
Every player eventually leaves the club and if the majority see out their contracts it allows you to forward plan.
Whilst it's great to get money in the bank it isn't great for players to leave with 12 or 24 months left to play.
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| There is no point criticizing Rads for getting players to sign long term deals when you don't know the terms of the contract. Maybe Gelling isn't getting paid that much? Or Smith?
Bateman will join the top earners at the club, but that might mean we can't buy a prop or centre. It's no good people moaning about not buying top imports in, then saying we need to pay the youngsters more.
If everyone at Wigan received what they are worth then we would be breaking the cap because we have developed the best squad in the league IMO.
Manfredi and Gildart have just broken into a top team, yet will be on buttons. They will need a rise soon too.
And we all wanted Sam back, but he will take up the marquee player salary. Bateman may well be the best player at the club, so it stands to reason that we aren't paying him what he is worth, nor are we likely to be able to. If he goes to a Super League club who can pay him more as a marquee player, he will join an inferior squad. He will need to decide. I hear that he's happy at Wigan under Wane. Let's hope we can sign him up. But if we can't, don't blame Rads.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "You'd imagine the NRL is a no go due to his daughter. It leaves us with no excuse not to get a deal over the line if that's the case.
You'd imagine only Leeds, Wire or possibly Salford (if he crazy enough) would have the means to try and tempt him away. He doesn't seem overly popular at Leeds but I think they respect his ability.'"
I'd agree with that. Although with Ward being a smaller type of back rower as well we would lack a bit of size in attack if we did sign him. Purely hypothetical anyway as it sounds like we've signed Westerman so I couldn't see us being in the market for him and by the sounds of it he's being groomed as SOL's successor so he's likely to be happy enough where he is.
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| Quote: Aboveusonlypie "There is no point criticizing Rads for getting players to sign long term deals when you don't know the terms of the contract. Maybe Gelling isn't getting paid that much? Or Smith?
Bateman will join the top earners at the club, but that might mean we can't buy a prop or centre. It's no good people moaning about not buying top imports in, then saying we need to pay the youngsters more.
If everyone at Wigan received what they are worth then we would be breaking the cap because we have developed the best squad in the league IMO.
Manfredi and Gildart have just broken into a top team, yet will be on buttons. They will need a rise soon too.
And we all wanted Sam back, but he will take up the marquee player salary. Bateman may well be the best player at the club, so it stands to reason that we aren't paying him what he is worth, nor are we likely to be able to. If he goes to a Super League club who can pay him more as a marquee player, he will join an inferior squad. He will need to decide. I hear that he's happy at Wigan under Wane. Let's hope we can sign him up. But if we can't, don't blame Rads.'"
Spot on, we can't have it all ways. We develop more young players than any other club and sometimes we have to let players go to accommodate them. I'm looking forward to see the next young group progress, and at some stage if they go well enough we'll have to find a way to pay them what they are worth.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "You'd imagine only Leeds, Wire or possibly Salford (if he crazy enough) would have the means to try and tempt him away. He doesn't seem overly popular at Leeds but I think they respect his ability.'"
Not overly popular but good opposition players rarely are, especially when they're young. Don't think he'd head our list of priorities unless he can play hooker though.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Spot on, we can't have it all ways. We develop more young players than any other club and sometimes we have to let players go to accommodate them. I'm looking forward to see the next young group progress, and at some stage if they go well enough we'll have to find a way to pay them what they are worth.'"
I think there is a case to be made for, at some point, sticking with what you have got. Our relatively large turnover of players could be viewed as detrimental IMO. Look how Leeds have remained unchanged for a decade in key areas. That stability is something I crave and if we relinquish crop after crop of kids, well, maybe that's the price to be paid.
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "I think there is a case to be made for, at some point, sticking with what you have got. Our relatively large turnover of players could be viewed as detrimental IMO. Look how Leeds have remained unchanged for a decade in key areas. That stability is something I crave and if we relinquish crop after crop of kids, well, maybe that's the price to be paid.'"
Would you be happy to see the likes of Hampshire, Manfredi, Shorrocks etc released to keep Bateman? I'm playing devils advocate btw. I accept it's a difficult decision, but it's always going to be a problem if we keep churning out the young talent.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Would you be happy to see the likes of Hampshire, Manfredi, Shorrocks etc released to keep Bateman? I'm playing devils advocate btw. I accept it's a difficult decision, but it's always going to be a problem if we keep churning out the young talent.'"
The point I'm making is that I don't want to hear calls for the next young thing to replace Manfredi, Bateman, etc as soon as those players reach the age of 24. Stick with this group for years to come and let the up and comers move on. Do you think Leeds had no great half back prospects coming through when Burrow and McGuire were in their mid 20s? I don't know if they did or not but what isn't in dispute is that Leeds had a squad chock full of players with 10 years or more on the clock - and now their trophy cabinet is chock full too. Coincidence? Well, maybe. I for one would like us to follow that route and see what happens.
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