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How do you fit them all in?

1. S.Tomkins
6. Williams
7. Smith
9. McIlorum

14. Powell

That leaves:

L.Tomkins
Hampshire
Bowen

I'm sure Hampshire will leave, as he is too good to leave out of the squad week in week out.

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From squad info on website Hampshire's contract ends this season. If that info is correct, why hasn't he been signed upto a long term contract already? I'm sure at the fans forum, earlier this year, Radders said they were talking to him about a new contract. Hope he re-signs but the longer we wait for news the less optimistic I feel.

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I don't see Wigan every week as a wire fan but I would go

1. Tomkins

6. Hampshire
7. Smith

9. Mcilorum

13. Oloughlin

14. Williams

Bowen will leave anyway, Logan isn't good enough and it's just unfortunate for Powell.

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Quote: i hate pies "I don't see Wigan every week as a wire fan but I would go

1. Tomkins

6. Hampshire
7. Smith

9. Mcilorum

13. Oloughlin

14. Williams

Bowen will leave anyway, Logan isn't good enough and it's just unfortunate for Powell.'"


And that's probably what 90% of Wiganers would pick but I can't see it.

I think we'll see Bowen and Hampshire leave at the end if the season but I'd be happy to let Bowen go and also let Powell go for the good of his career. Sam Powell would be a starting half at many clubs and he needs to play on a regular basis.

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Last week I saw a post from either Rogues or Father Ted that said Hampshire was signed up till 2016 with an option of another year. This surprised me as everyone else seems to think his contract expires at the end of 2015. There used to be something on Bilko's site with all the players and their contract details, but I couldn't find that when I looked.
So, Rogues, Ted and Bilko, can we please have some clarification on this issue.
Thank you

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Powell and Logan are an issue both are at a stage in their career where they need to be playing but probably won't get near the team. I would think both need to move on for the good of their careers.

Williams and Hampshire could be our halves for years to come and need to be protected in this move. Both must have concerns about game time next year.

The biggest issue is managing Smith, long term we need Williams and Rocky at 6 and 7 I would sacrifice Smith, all be it reluctantly and probably yo the determent short term of the team, to ensure we don't lose one of that pair.

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Quote: NickyKiss "It says 2016 for Burgess though also so it's tough to say.'"


That's an interesting article and one would think that both Burgess and Rocky would be signed up till the end of 2016. It was dated 22nd October 2012 and it says they have been given 4 year contracts. Can the BBC relied on to be accurate, though?!
I also agree with Jonh that we should make every effort to get both Williams and Rocky tied up on long term deals and playing together in the halves. George is more of a 7 than 6, so if that means Smith having to be moved to bench 9 or even leave, so be it.

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Smith is far more important then he's being given credit for IMO. He's a leader, his kicking game is far better then any of our other halves and he's our goal kicker. Take him out of the side and there's some issues there IMO that a partnership of Hampshire and Williams won't fix in the short term.

I'd be loathed to see Hampshire or Williams walk out the door but the same goes for Smith. I'd let all three of Bowen, Powell and Logan Tomkins go before any of the three mentioned above.

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Quote: Fames "That's an interesting article and one would think that both Burgess and Rocky would be signed up till the end of 2016. It was dated 22nd October 2012 and it says they have been given 4 year contracts. Can the BBC relied on to be accurate, though?!
I also agree with Jonh that we should make every effort to get both Williams and Rocky tied up on long term deals and playing together in the halves. George is more of a 7 than 6, so if that means Smith having to be moved to bench 9 or even leave, so be it.'"


Here is the same on the official site then if you need it:
www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 642&type=1

I thought Burgess was just being released from his last year but reading back through the Sydney announcements, it doesn't mention anything.
Quote: Fames "That's an interesting article and one would think that both Burgess and Rocky would be signed up till the end of 2016. It was dated 22nd October 2012 and it says they have been given 4 year contracts. Can the BBC relied on to be accurate, though?!
I also agree with Jonh that we should make every effort to get both Williams and Rocky tied up on long term deals and playing together in the halves. George is more of a 7 than 6, so if that means Smith having to be moved to bench 9 or even leave, so be it.'"


Here is the same on the official site then if you need it:
www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 642&type=1

I thought Burgess was just being released from his last year but reading back through the Sydney announcements, it doesn't mention anything.


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I'd probably let Logan and Bowen go.

The rotate the bench players every week.

1. Tomkins
6. Williams
7. Smith
9. McIlorum
14. Powell / Hampshire

Out

Bowen
L.Tomkins

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Quote: NickyKiss "Smith is far more important then he's being given credit for IMO. He's a leader, his kicking game is far better then any of our other halves and he's our goal kicker. Take him out of the side and there's some issues there IMO that a partnership of Hampshire and Williams won't fix in the short term.

I'd be loathed to see Hampshire or Williams walk out the door but the same goes for Smith. I'd let all three of Bowen, Powell and Logan Tomkins go before any of the three mentioned above.'"

Williams and Hampshire clearly have a special quality about them.

Smith is a solid SL half, but he's replaceable. I'd keep him around as an interchange hooker, but I'd have Williams/Hampshire/Tomkins as the starting 1/6/7 if pushed.

I'd keep Powell over Smith too when you consider the salary cap.

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Smith's just signed a new deal, hasn't he? Agree with NK, anyway.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Here is the same on the official site then if you need it:

This seems to be confirmation that Rocky is definitely signed up till the end of 2016.

The fact that Williams only signed a 3 year contract ( unlike Rocky and Burgess 4 years) and thus signed a contract extension earlier this year surely bodes well: if there is consistency Rocky would be offered an extension/new contract early next year - hopefully on greatly improved terms.

This still doesn't answer the question of why Burgess is leaving in October 2015 when according to the BBC article and the official Wigan site he should be contracted till October 2016. I wonder if a transfer fee has been paid on the quiet.....( or is there some Sam-like agreement that Wigan will have first refusal on him if he returns to Super League?!)

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