Burgess to Sydney confirmed a few minutes ago, Sutton signed 4 year deal.

Upsetting, but we've had enough notice. I don't really blame him or the club, it's just frustrating and disappointing. I rate him and I think he will be one of the best in the world in a few years, it just won't be in a Wigan shirt.

Hopefully he will put the effort in this season and not do a 'Carney' on us.

Sign of the times. Wigan have paid in a sense for Burgess making too big an impact last year and the Roosters have taken advantage of a situation were Wigan have been a bit slow in offering an improved deal by the looks.

I'm surprised and happy Sutton is staying and hopefully we can get past the post with deals for the other four lads mentioned. If we do we're in a healthy spot still with a good player in Manfredi to come in.

Very disappointed in him - I think it's a very classless thing to do considering the amount Wigan have done to develop him on and off field.

Manfredi will do well if he gets the shirt.

Ar5e

Oh well

Manfredi in for me. Not a bad swap to be fair, just feels like another kick in the pods.

Glad he is showing some gratitude to the club that developed him.......

There is a part of me that thinks that about Burgess too. He's a Wigan lad who's spoke about his immense pride in turning out for the first team and he's jumped ship at the very first opportunity.

Guys like Tomkins x2 and Mossop gave us 5 or 6 good years service and won plenty before moving on. This kids won nowt and has had one good season.

I doubt the club will burn their bridges but it feels more Chris Ashton then Sam Tomkins at the minute.

I think that post will sum up most people's views.

Id be interested to know if fans were given more detail about Burgess at the forum tonight, did we fight to try and keep him or were we happy to see him walk?

Im finding it difficult to be critical of the player without knowing what was on the table.

Radlinski is quoted on Sky Sports website as saying Wigan did everything they could to keep him.

I read somewhere earlier that it was said Rads sat down with him after the Leigh friendly last year (before his seasons exploits) to offer him a new deal and he said then he'd already made his mind up to move to Sydney.

If that's true I guess he may well have been spotted on the academy tour to Oz he went on a couple of years back and offered a deal then.

Can't blame him, I would do the same.

He has to look out for himself and doesn't owe us anything. Too much sentiment doesn't get you very far in life.

I'd agree with that. He says its the lifestyle but its probably the money as well (I doubt he will be on peanuts).

I can't help thinking it is in any players interest to be a bit older and a bit more experienced before considering the move anyway. At his age another three years here then with the extra experience not to say maturity as a person he could probably name his price and have had the satisfaction of hopefully winning a challenge cup or gf with Wigan as well as being probably better equipped for the move.

I think it is pretty serious for the sport never mind Wigan if it isn't attractive enough to keep hold of such a young player in the most famous team in the sport who has not won a thing. Who is next?

You're right. But with no sentiment you might go far but one day you'll look back and realise you didn't pick up many friends along the way.

He's done the wrong thing. Australia would still have been there in 3 years.

I've said it before. Rugby league cannot compete with nrl and ru and all this sham about a new era is just a rebranding exercise to mask the fact that the sport cannot keep hold of it's marquee players