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| Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos, Hunslet Parkside)
Tom Briscoe (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions)
George Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor)
Thomas Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs, Dewsbury Moor)
Rob Burrow (Leeds Rhinos, Featherstone Lions)
Rangi Chase (Castleford Tigers, Dannevirke Tigers)
Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield Giants, Newsome Panthers)
Liam Farrell (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Brett Ferres (Huddersfield Giants, Smawthorne Panthers)
James Graham (Canterbury Bulldog, Blackbrook)
Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Oulton Raiders)
Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves, New Spring Lions)
Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Kevin Sinfield (captain) (Leeds Rhinos, Waterhead)
Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos, Latchford Albion)
Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights)
Gareth Widdop (Melbourne Storm, King Cross)
I'd have Chase and Ablett missing out but I'm sure it'll be Burrow and Farrell
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| I'd leave out Chase and Farrell.
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| 1. S Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
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5. Hall
6. Chase/Widdop
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8. G Burgess
9. Roby
10.Hill
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12. Ablett
13. O'Loughlin
14. Burrow
15. Graham
16. T Burgess
17. Farrell
1 of Chase/Widdop to miss out and rest Westwood for what will be an extremely physical game Vs Fiji. Hoping Micky Mc will come into the starting lineup for the Fiji game aswell.
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| Don't get it with Ablett.
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| Quote: Conroy "Don't get it with Ablett.'"
+1, perhaps I'm just letting my dislike of him cloud my judgement but he just seems to be a jack of all trades to me. Not strong enough to be a good second rower and not skilful enough to be a good centre
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| I'd leave out Chase and Ablett but I think it'll be Burrow and Farrell who miss out.
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| Hardaker
Briscoe Cudjoe Watkins Hall
Tomkins Burrow
Hill McM Mossop
Faz Ferres
Graham
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Roby Lockers T Burgess Abblet
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Hardaker
Briscoe Cudjoe Watkins Hall
Tomkins Burrow
Hill McM Mossop
Faz Ferres
Graham
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Roby Lockers T Burgess Abblet'"
There's an interesting one. Has Graham ever played loose?
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| Lockers straight in at thirteen and when S Burgess is back id move him into second row at the expense of Westwood who is a penalty machine and is prone to brain farts which at the very top level costs us.
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| Quote: Grimmy "There's an interesting one. Has Graham ever played loose?'"
You know a team selection is daft if Grimmy is questioning it.
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| Why have two people named a side with McIlorum in it when he isn't in the 19 man squad?
I'm surprised McNamara dropped Mossop and kept Tom Burgess in there; he looked out of his depth v Australia.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Why have two people named a side with McIlorum in it when he isn't in the 19 man squad?
I'm surprised McNamara dropped Mossop and kept Tom Burgess in there; he looked out of his depth v Australia.'"
My bad, didnt read the squad. Mossop looked out of his depth so i wiuld personally drop in place of Graham and keep the rest. If S Burgess was available Id also drop Westwood with Lockers coming at 13 moving Sam to second row. Westwood plays hard but is all too often a liability discipline wise at this level.
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| Quote: lothlorian "My bad, didnt read the squad. Mossop looked out of his depth so i wiuld personally drop in place of Graham and keep the rest. If S Burgess was available Id also drop Westwood with Lockers coming at 13 moving Sam to second row. Westwood plays hard but is all too often a liability discipline wise at this level.'"
I'd keep him in over Ablett. I'd also have Liam Farrell over Ablett too.
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| Chase and Ablett to miss out for me too. There is no question Farrell is a better player then Ablett but I did understand him being picked against Australia before Faz to cover second row and centre.
If needs must Saturday Faz could shift in to centre.
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| Quote: Grimmy "There's an interesting one. Has Graham ever played loose?'"
Just thought I'd mix it up to be honest. Trying Hardaker at 1 and Sam at 6 also. Don't honestly know if I'd genuinely go for this team from the squad, but it would be a line up I'd be excited to see.
With regards of Graham at 13, he would't be a 'ball playing 13' but basically a 3rd prop, like Sammy B, Gallen, Eastwood etc. He's got a good engine, could easily play 60 mins, especially with two other props on the field. This would give us excellent strike winning the forward battle/arm wrestle.
Personally I don't see how Lockers could be match fit, he's hardly played for months. I think 80mins might be a big ask, I'd like to see him come off the bench after 20, meaning he plays 20, has a rest at half time, then comes back on for another 20-30 to see how he feels.
This would mean Lockers would replace one of the starting props, push Graham into to 8 or 10 role with Lockers coming on as a ball playing loose. This would undoubtedly add another dimension to the attack after the half graft has been established in the first 20.
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