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50494_1274104673.jpg [quote="wearethewire":3otazmtq]expect nothing, anything more is better[/quote:3otazmtq]
[quote="Wires71":3otazmtq]And there is the Warrington motto in a nutshell. No wonder we were dog dirt for 20 years [/quote:3otazmtq]
[quote="madoggy":3otazmtq]hope saints win it, if wigan dont win another league title for 100 years they would still have more than everyone [/quote:3otazmtq]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50494.jpg |
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| Signed for Warrington. Will we regret not bringing him back?
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| Surprised by that, his defence and ability under the high ball is not good enough for a top club in my opinion.
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| I don't think we had too much choice in it. We couldn't outbid Gold Coast or offer him a starting spot back then, now we've got Tierney and Hampshire who have shown just as much promise (more in my opinion) so it doesn't really make much sense to try to outbid Wire, and in doing so probably lose one of them. Having said all that I do think he'll go well for Wire
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| Where though? Full back? What about Ratchford
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
And you'll rise high today,
Fly away, Far away,
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| From a Wire point of view, its an educated gamble - Its a pretty open secret that Salford are after getting Ratchford back, so with a two year deal for Russell, it gives us a good chance to see if we can bring in a young British player on the (relative) cheap as a replacement.
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| Quote: FIOS "Surprised by that, his defence and ability under the high ball is not good enough for a top club in my opinion.'"
Thats what they said about Mathers and he won back to back Challenge Cups, with some players the move to a top club gets an extra gear out of their game.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Thats what they said about Mathers and he won back to back Challenge Cups, with some players the move to a top club gets an extra gear out of their game.'"
That's terrible logic. Just because he played in good sides doesn't mean he was a good player. Mathers only lasted 2 years there for good reason.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Thats what they said about Mathers and he won back to back Challenge Cups, with some players the move to a top club gets an extra gear out of their game.'"
? He's been at THE top team.
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| This to a degree reminds me of Saints with Matty Smith.
At the time they let Matty go (by all means a more established player than Russell) as they were putting all their eggs in the Kyle Eastmond basket. And possibly Gaskell and Lomax to a degree.
Years later their 'star in the making' Eastmond ups and leaves for Union, ideally Saint could have done with Smith.
Matty Russell's future at Wigan was very much at doubt with Sam Tomkins moved to play fb, at this stage, considering Sam's age it didn't look as if Russell would ever get his chance.
Now, like Eastmond, Sam has packed his bags and we're left in a predicament which might have suited Russell and Wigan if he would have stayed with the club.
Personally I think the lad has bags of potential, ironically has a similar build, playing style to our new signing, 10 years apart it's easy to see Russell developing in a Bowen type of player.
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| I would have liked to have seen him back. This is a problem we have always had and will have for as long as we have a successful academy. We churn out players at such a rate that there's no way we can keep them all and plenty unfortunately will slip through the net.
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| Quote: Ranger "? He's been at THE top team.'"
Correct. He was a good player for Leeds, just lacked pace.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Thats what they said about Mathers and he won back to back Challenge Cups, with some players the move to a top club gets an extra gear out of their game.'"
Mathers is a very bad example to quote. His career thus far has seen him steadily work his way down the heap.
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| Quote: Les Norton "Correct. He was a good player for Leeds, just lacked pace.'"
I was speaking of Matty Russell. You need to stop thinking of Leeds as the top team Les.
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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM''
He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue]
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[quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]: |
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| What was the situation between him and Murphy. Initially everyone was raving about Russell, but it seemed to me that Murphy caught up to him and maybe even passed him in 2012, yet in 2013 Murphy certainly seems to have been passed by both Hampshire & Tierney.
either way, you cant keep them all.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "This to a degree reminds me of Saints with Matty Smith.
At the time they let Matty go (by all means a more established player than Russell) as they were putting all their eggs in the Kyle Eastmond basket. And possibly Gaskell and Lomax to a degree.
Years later their 'star in the making' Eastmond ups and leaves for Union, ideally Saint could have done with Smith.
Matty Russell's future at Wigan was very much at doubt with Sam Tomkins moved to play fb, at this stage, considering Sam's age it didn't look as if Russell would ever get his chance.
Now, like Eastmond, Sam has packed his bags and we're left in a predicament which might have suited Russell and Wigan if he would have stayed with the club.
Personally I think the lad has bags of potential, ironically has a similar build, playing style to our new signing, 10 years apart it's easy to see Russell developing in a Bowen type of player.'"
It's a quite different though because where Matty Smith was offloaded to an inferior team, Russell went to the NRL. We didn't let him go because he wasn't good enough, if anything it was because he had too much potential and was lured to a better team.
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