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Obviously our attack needs a shake up and with this not being a knock out game I think we are ok to take some risks. Goulding didn't look fit to me and we need a creative 13 to suit our style of play so I would go:

1. Sam
2. Charnley
3. Gelling
4. Thornley
5. Richards
6. Hampshire
7. Smith
8. Mossop
9. McIlorum
10. Flower
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Green

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Quote: FIOS "Goulding didn't look fit to me'"


He was sick all week and was on a drip before the game, he shouldnt have even played.

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Really don't think Green could cope with the defence required from 13.

I'd go:

Sam
Charnley
Goulding
Thornley
Richards
Hampshire
Smith
Flower
Logan
Mossop
Hansen
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McIlorum

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Really don't think Green could cope with the defence required from 13.'"


I agree. I also think our back row 3 is lightweight enough without Green being there too.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Really don't think Green could cope with the defence required from 13.
+i apart from sam,he is either playing with an injury or is just not d.
I'd go

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What's happened to Greg Burke ?

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Quote: FIOS "Obviously our attack needs a shake up and with this not being a knock out game I think we are ok to take some risks. Goulding didn't look fit to me and we need a creative 13 to suit our style of play so I would go

Yeah I agree. We've tried other options and its not worked.
We could even consider Sam Tomkins at loose forward with Hampshire at full back. Sam, i feel, has the experience and game awareness to cope with the position and lead the team from the front.

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Leeds made the second most meters against us last week of any team all season. The back 3 are too lightweight and we need a bit of grunt and that x-factor...why cant we play Hock? Isn't he our player til the end of the season? He's worth including despite some of his shortcomings. Plus I'd bring back Burke a loose forward to replace Lockers.

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Sometimes I don't really know what planet some people live on that post on this forum. Green at 13? Logan at 9? Mcllorum at 13? Sam Tomkins at 13???? Bring back Hock? icon_lol.gif

The mind boggles, you lot are on crack, go have a lie down.

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Quote: Bill Sonny "Sometimes I don't really know what planet some people live on that post on this forum. Green at 13? Logan at 9? Mcllorum at 13? Bring back Hock?

The mind boggles, go have a lie down'"


We'll just go with green and smith in the halves, Tuson or flower at 13, mcilorum at 9 and spelled by the clock with Logan, then we can sit back and watch the same dross that wev been treated to for the last 3 months. Wane needs to do something different, that is apparent. People are offering their suggestions of how he can do this. If you don't agree then fair enough, don't think you need to start asking what planet people are on though.

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Assuming Goulding won't be fit.

I've been suggesting Smith to 9 at interchange for ages.

Tomkins
Charnley Gelling Thornley Richards
Green Smith
Mossop McIlorum Crosby
Hansen Farrell
Flower

Taylor Powell Tuson Hampshire

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "We'll just go with green and smith in the halves, Tuson or flower at 13, mcilorum at 9 and spelled by the clock with Logan, then we can sit back and watch the same dross that wev been treated to for the last 3 months. Wane needs to do something different, that is apparent. People are offering their suggestions of how he can do this. If you don't agree then fair enough, don't think you need to start asking what planet people are on though.'"


He does need to do something different. Playing players in the positions quoted is not the answer. Unfortunately we don't have the personnel to change things around, that's just life. You will sit back and watch Green and Smith at 6/7, Tuson/Flower at 13, Mickey at 9 spelled by Logan, that's it. Why would he change and experiment with the line-up in the most important game of the season? It's a shame, but we have no other options

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1. S Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding / Gelling
4. Thornley
5. Richards
6. S Powell / Green
7. Smith
8. Flower
9. McIlorum
10. Mossop
11. Hansen
12. Farrell
13. Tuson

14. Taylor
15. Crosby / A Powell
16. Burke
17. L Tomkins / S Powell

I don't think wholesale changes need to be made. In a team that seems to be lacking attacking cohesion switching everything around isn't necessarily going to be a miracle cure. If anything a smarter style of play would be more effective than chopping and changing.

The biggest worry I have is Green's form. There were some brief glimpses of good things against Leeds with his good short pass to put Thornley through a gap and his break down field. Unfortunately there was still a lot that was wrong, particularly his woeful pass that was intercepted by BJB.

If Green was replaced I'd worry about Hampshire a) because he seems less effective on the left than the right, and b) because Westerman's try for Hull showed just how much he struggles in defence against bigger players. Westerman isn't exactly a powerhouse but Hampshire was powerless to stop him.

Powell has showed some good signs and has already played against some good teams. His kicking game has looked very dangerous and if there's one thing that the cup final showed it's that a good kicking game can be a game winner as long as the defence is solid. Powell might not be likely to put players through gaps like Green did when in form but he does have a smart kicking game that might take some pressure off Matty Smith, who Huddersfield will no doubt be watching like a hawk on the last tackle.

If Green does start then I'd at least hope that Powell is on the bench. It would be very harsh on Logan Tomkins who has done well at times but he really does seem to be more effective when starting games. I've got this nagging feeling that Green is going the same way as Finch at the end of last year and might be more likely to lose us a game than win us one.

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Some weird as flunk teams been suggested, I thought I was leftfield! I'd go:

FB 1 Sam
RW 2 Charnley
RC 3 Goulding (17 Thornley if he's injured)
LC 22 Gelling
LW 5 Richards
SO 6 Green
SH 7 Smith
P 26 Crosby
H 9 McIlorum
P 10 Mossop
SR 11 Hansen
SR 12 Farrell
LF 15 Flower

S 16 Tuson
S 21 Taylor
S 32 Hampshire
S 38 A.Powell

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Not really weird, we need some spark in attack and we have the best player in super league stood around at the back waiting for things to happen in front of him. Move Sam forward and give him licence to create havoc. We've tried almost everything else. Tell Sam to go strutt his stuff.

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