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| I know this is a much visited topic, but yesterday's game set me thinking. In order to beat Australia and NZ then we can't just play the defence wins games model, and play a conservative low risk game. We may win very occasionally doing this if they are a bit off par. IMHO our best chance is to be more adventurous. Obviously this means keeping Sinfield out of the team. While I don't think Chase or Brough would fit in at Wigan, they are obviously the most creative halves we have available. I for one would be accept defeat somewhat easier if we gave it a go. We are not good enough to beat them at their down game.
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| Sinfield is better than chase.
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| I'd have a look at Blake Greens availability.
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| chase isnt worth it. hes a rugby idiot. despite some of his great plays.
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| Not convinced by Sinfield, Chase, Brough or Widdop tbh so it's really tough to pick a pairing. In all honesty I'm also a little worried that Tomkins will be ruthlessly targetted with the high ball at fullback by the Aussies/Kiwis so I'd be seriously tempted to get him back in to the halfbacks and throw a player in at fullback to surprise the NRL boys.
At the moment if I had to pick a 1,6 and 7 I'd go-
1- Lomax
6- Sinfield
7- Tomkins
The best mixture of experience, youth, pace and surprise factor I think we could throw at teams at the moment.
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| Quote: FIOS "Sinfield is better than chase.'"
Sinfield has a great kicking game. You get as good if not better from Brough. My point is, a structured game plan has failed time and time again. To illustrate this if you watch Wigan's set plays they are devastating against all but the best defences in SL. But the best teams deal with it. Aus and Kiwi defences need something different to get through. I would not normally endorse Chase, but we need an X factor. The only other option would be as others say, Tomkins at 6 and Lomax at 1. But please let's have Brough and not Sinfield, who at best should be a bench hooking option.
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| Myler is the form scrum-half in Super League this year. It's just not fashionable to say so.
Tomkins has to play full-back as the stand-out threat in the English team. I'd probably go with Widdop as stand-off.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Myler is the form scrum-half in Super League this year. It's just not fashionable to say.'"
I agree. He was massively influencial in Wire's tremendous win against Widnes over the Easter Period. For that reason alone he's a shoe-in for me.
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| Quote: MattyB "I agree. He was massively influencial in Wire's tremendous win against Widnes over the Easter Period. For that reason alone he's a shoe-in for me.'"
Attacking Stats
MYLER
6 TRIES
40 ATTACKING KICKS
4.9 AV. GAIN
135 CARRIES
8 CLEAN BREAKS
0 DROP GOALS
0 FOURTY TWENTIES
0 GOALS
54 KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
26 MARKER TACKLES
657 METERS
15 OFFLOADS
25 TACKLE BUSTS
9 TRY ASSISTS
Attacking Stats
GREEN
5 TRIES
32 ATTACKING KICKS
4.1 AV. GAIN
136 CARRIES
5 CLEAN BREAKS
0 DROP GOALS
1 FOURTY TWENTIES
0 GOALS
66 KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
18 MARKER TACKLES
556 METERS
3 OFFLOADS
11 TACKLE BUSTS
11 TRY ASSISTS
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Quote: Builth Wells Wire "Attacking Stats
MYLER
6 TRIES
40 ATTACKING KICKS
4.9 AV. GAIN
135 CARRIES
8 CLEAN BREAKS
0 DROP GOALS
0 FOURTY TWENTIES
0 GOALS
54 KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
26 MARKER TACKLES
657 METERS
15 OFFLOADS
25 TACKLE BUSTS
9 TRY ASSISTS
Attacking Stats
GREEN
5 TRIES
32 ATTACKING KICKS
4.1 AV. GAIN
136 CARRIES
5 CLEAN BREAKS
0 DROP GOALS
1 FOURTY TWENTIES
0 GOALS
66 KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
18 MARKER TACKLES
556 METERS
3 OFFLOADS
11 TACKLE BUSTS
11 TRY ASSISTS'"
Not one forty-twenty yet? Poor.
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| Quote: never had it "Sinfield has a great kicking game. You get as good if not better from Brough. My point is, a structured game plan has failed time and time again. To illustrate this if you watch Wigan's set plays they are devastating against all but the best defences in SL. But the best teams deal with it. Aus and Kiwi defences need something different to get through. I would not normally endorse Chase, but we need an X factor. The only other option would be as others say, Tomkins at 6 and Lomax at 1. But please let's have Brough and not Sinfield, who at best should be a bench hooking option.'"
If Eddie and Stevo had their way, Sinfield could play the Aussies on his own, backing up in every other position. Tonight's commentary was beyond ridiculous. You'd have thought Leeds had massacred Wire rather than beaten them by six points or whatever it was, and Sinfield made several quite noticeable errors, including one which directly led to a Warrington try.
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| Never heard them talk about Tomkins?
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| Quote: Cruncher "If Eddie and Stevo had their way, Sinfield could play the Aussies on his own, backing up in every other position. Tonight's commentary was beyond ridiculous. You'd have thought Leeds had massacred Wire rather than beaten them by six points or whatever it was, and Sinfield made several quite noticeable errors, including one which directly led to a Warrington try.'"
A lot of people would say they go overboard on Tomkins but the commentary I've heard about Sinfiels these past two weeks has been borderline insane!
Didn't notice he was playing tonight and he was poor at Catalan coming up with a few errors yet you'd think he'd won both games on his own listening to the sky boys.
As a leader and a bloke Sinfield seems a good egg and I'm sure he'd say he was a little below par at the moment regardless of being brown nosed by Eddie and co.
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| Quote: Builth Wells Wire "Attacking Stats
MYLER
6 TRIES
40 ATTACKING KICKS
4.9 AV. GAIN
135 CARRIES
8 CLEAN BREAKS
0 DROP GOALS
0 FOURTY TWENTIES
0 GOALS
54 KICKS IN GENERAL PLAY
26 MARKER TACKLES
657 METERS
15 OFFLOADS
25 TACKLE BUSTS
9 TRY ASSISTS
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Impressive stats, unfortunately he'll be back playing a minor support role once Briers is fit.
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| Quote: tony1983 "Never heard them talk about Tomkins?
Tomkins is the best attack player in the UK.
Sinfield isn't even the best loose forward.
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