Why is there so much doom and gloom on these fans forums.
With our recent record of success we are the envy of most other Superleague clubs. What would the Humberside clubs give for anything near our recent achievements:-

1. League leaders (2 out of last 3 years)
2. Semi-final CC (Winners 2011)
3. Semi-final of Play Off (Winners 2010)
4. Man of Steel
5. Top Try Scorer
6. Club of the Year
7. Best Supported Club.

Some fans are writing off our chances already for 2013.
Rubbishing our new half back partnership before they have even seen them play together.
Criticising the lack of signing a big name player.
The sacking of Shaun Wane after his first season as head coach, Yes he has made mistakes but he is still learning the trade.
He may not yet have the tact of Tony Smith but he certainly has the passion. Don't forget Smith has been in the British game a long time Gaining experience at Leeds, Huddersfield, Warrington and Great Britain.
I am sure with the salary cap money saved from our outgoing batch players there is room for one or two more good signing, Maybe an Aussie centre and prop forward.
Lets just wait a couple more weeks to see what pans out.

No doom and gloom from me.

- I'm happy with the halfbacks. They are both young enough to improve and can do that here at Wigan.

- Taylor will be a superb signing if we pull it off.

- I think one or two others will follow him through the door.

- The nucleus of our side is still in place. Guys like Tomkins, Lockers, Hock, McIlorum etc will keep us driving forward.

- Our youth set up will continue to bear fruit. We have some exceptional juniors ready to push through.

- We have a good coaching staff, brilliant owner and excellent facilities.

All that combined will keep us in there fighting. We are set up for the long term rather then short term unlike some other superleague clubs. There is massive potential for improvement within our squad which I can't Say about everyone else's.

The rising of the NRL cap will snooker a couple of clubs in the coming years but not ours.

Im upset by the lack of announcements regarding piping on our new shirts

Winning things these last few years is no fun when there's whinging to be done.

I sense the doom and gloom is on its way back!

I want to know about season tickets/memberships. The longer it goes without anything being announced the less likely I can convince my missus about getting one!

The doom n gloom on my part is down to the fact that the quality just isn't there any more.

So you think theres been a decline as well?

I agree, but when I posted a thead on the VT everyone is disagreeing

At the risk of being branded a troll I think you're clutching at straws with some of those. Is a club like wigan really supposed to be squawking about semi final appearences? Come on.

Wane has failed to deliver to expectations in his first season, if you don't make the grand final next season i think he'll be on his way (unless there is CC success).

RL in general is deffo on the decline. The simple fact is that there is very little intensity in the weekly rounds due to the current format. That's all on another thread though.

As for Wigan, some doom and gloom but not all. I'll reserve judgement until we see who comes in. We need reinforcements but have a solid base to build upon.

I don't agree. The way some people write on here its almost a case of we'll never be happy and Wane will never be any good unless we win everything. Those days are gone. Our season was not poor and we were a worms tooth away from wembley and the GF as well as finishing top!
We can improve on last season but not by much!

tbh, isnt the doom and gloom more about the apparent head long charge into oblivion that the RFL appear to be planning (revamped junior setup, mismanagement of expansion clubs, poor implementation of financial regs, failure to appoint a decent international coach, failing to stop best players being poached by year-on-year reduction in net value of SC, increasing number of pointless fixtures due to top 8, increasingly poor standard of ref's, etc etc)

its just difficult to be positive when surrounded by such mediocrity (both in players, coaches and administrators)

We are the only team to have won both major trophys recently, pretty happy with that!!

and we're the only team to have beaten Leeds in a knock out play off match in 6 years.

Things are rosy.