... at least we can have a good laugh at St Helens losing their FIFTH Grand Final on the trot, because let's face it, what's the chances of them beating Warrington? Slim? None?

I daresay some of their fans are actually praying Wigan stuff them on Saturday, because the embarrassment of losing another Grand Final would surely be far too much.

What say you?

I say I'd rather be positive for this Saturday rather than bother about the other lot. Leave any banter about the last few Grand Finals until later, I hate to say it but at least they've made grand finals over the last few seasons.

I'm just hoping that we can prevent them from making another OT appearance on Saturday.

I appreciate that, but it would be funny wouldn't it?

IF we lose against Saints this weekend, then i dont care about the GF! I dont think i will be able to bring myself to watch the GF against the two teams i dislike the most!

100% this!

If we lose .. which I don't think we will .. but, if we do; then I'd like to see Warrington lift the cup at OT over Saints.

As much as I dislike both TEAMS, I think the true Wire fans deserve a grand final win. Plus, it'll keep the league looking 'fresh' in the eyes of the media .. personally, to me, that's the main thing.

But, of course, that's only if we lose to Saints.

Absolute worst nightmare scenario ever.

I will have to take a last minute holiday out of the country leaving my mobile phone and any other means of communication behind.

Unthinkable.

I am hoping that the GF will be a repeat of the CCF - Warriors v Whinos!

Yeah, reaching 6 GFs on the spin, how embarrassing for us to remain competitive.

I'd rather we nearly got relegated or missed the play-offs entirely like Wigan and Wire in recent years than kept reaching these pesky finals, that would be much better.

should wigan lose on saturday. if its leeds v st helens i want leeds. if its st helens v warrington i want st helens. i just dont like warrington.as i always go to sl grand final i will have a team to win

Its a great record, but you must think its time to actually win one?

Of course it is, if we deserve to win the game, we will. If we don't, we won't.

But I don't find reaching grand finals embarrassing. If we get there and are outplayed in the final, that will be disappointing and upsetting, but certainly not embarrassing.

As I pointed out when I completely destroyed you on that other thread, close enough is NOT good enough. The aim is to WIN, not 'almost' win.

Four grand final chokes on the trot is, frankly, an embarrassing record.

This + 1.

The aim is to win, after all. Losing is failure.