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| From the decision to find H not guilty, but thought it warranted a separate thread re how we do things - link rlhttps://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3129rl
Quote: undue pressure "The player explained about the techniques that they are coached and that they have individual reviews of opponents. They were briefed he is the third best offloader in the game and gets really quick play the balls. Intention was to slow the play the ball down and prevent the off load. Lynch turned to look for the off load rather than being turned by the player's actions. Harrison is coached to get his hips under the opponents and that is what he did on this occasion. Other players' (Leuluai sweeping the leg and J Tomkins coming over from the side) actions contributed to the tackle and when Hansen realised that Lynch's head was in a potentially dangerous position he changed position to ensure his safety. Hansen's left arm was trying to control the ball and was not putting pressure on the head and there was no movement from the legs to deliver an impact to the neck. The priority was to prevent the offload. Michael Maguire, representing the player, stated that in 2009 and 2010 Lynch was the highest off loader in the game. In 2011 he currently has the third highest number of off loads. To ensure he can off load effectively Lynch spins upon impact. Mr Maguire reiterated that Hansen's priority was to prevent the offload. Mr Maguire encourages his players to ensure the safety of opponents and in this instance Harrison ensured that Lynch landed safely. The players are instructed to slow the play the ball and to ideally get opponents on their backs with their head safely on the floor. Shaun Wane also added that there was no "undue pressure" and the player can be seen to lift his backside which releases pressure and allows the player to move to the floor safely.'"
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| I've just read that and thought the same thing. Just shows how well Madge does his homework!
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| Wow.
You'd never believe that so much calculation & adjustment can go on over 2 seconds, with 4 people involved in a single tackle.
The speed of calculation required to affect this technique and then to adjust when he sees that the opposing player might land in an awkward or dangerous position is incredible.
Also, hats off to the coaching staff for their obvious attention to detail when it comes to individual player briefings.
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| Nah. We're just a third man in at the knees team. Everyone knows that.
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| Quote: Pemps "Nah. We're just a third man in at the knees team. Everyone knows that.'"
Yep. Richie Mathers isn't a fan, apparently...
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| Dirty cheats Wigan.
Outstanding explaination!
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| Quote: Pie Eyed "Wow.
You'd never believe that so much calculation & adjustment can go on over 2 seconds, with 4 people involved in a single tackle.
The speed of calculation required to affect this technique and then to adjust when he sees that the opposing player might land in an awkward or dangerous position is incredible.
Also, hats off to the coaching staff for their obvious attention to detail when it comes to individual player briefings.'"
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| Someone forward this to cheerleader Mathers on twitter lol!
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| Quote: the-Bowtun-Warrior "Someone forward this to cheerleader Mathers on twitter lol!'"
He's just peed off because he wasn't part of the plan.
Mathers can't affect a straightforward round-the-legs tackle, let alone anything as complex and careful as that.
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| Quote: Gibs Number 6 "I've just read that and thought the same thing. Just shows how well Madge does his homework!'"
Sorry, but thats is part of what I would expect Madge and his coaching staff to be doing. This is a professional sport, Don Revie & Bill Shankley were doing long before now.
Perhaps this is the problem with several other coaches in that they are are too busy taking the lure of television plaudit money (Kear, Slug and Noble), rather than concentrating on their team and the opposition.
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| Madge has taken coaching in this country to a new level. Let's hope no one matches him.... apart from Shaun Wane next season!
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| Wow, what a brilliant read.
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| That's what's called attention to detail.
However, I'm sure we are all over estimating Madge here, Kear, McDermott and Agar will all be doing the same.
They must be as they are SL coaches and they're British!
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| Not commenting on the incident in question, which I haven't seen, and the testimony certainly reflects attention to detail in preparation by Wigan, but I didn't find that a very satisfactory defence to a charge of dangerous contact.
Surely the panel's job is to decide whether the contact was dangerous or not? If it was, then the explanation that "I was coached that way, and I didn't want him to offload" is not a defence at all.
Not, I hasten to add, that I'm saying there was dangerous contact in this instance or any other, just an observation on a point of principle.
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