Name the centre pairings in our last 3 Wembley loses.

Connelly and Moore 1998?

David Stevenson and Colin Whitfield 84

1970........Was Bill Francis centre then??

Pretty certain Peter Rowe was left centre and Francis left wing.

Right wing was Keri Jones - right centre i think was either Cliff Hill or Kevin O'Loughlin.

Full back Colin Tyrer - until Keith Hepworth broke his jaw after 20 minutes! Along with the Saints 66 and Widnes 84 finals, not a good start to my Wembley experiences. Made up for it in 85 and 88-95, though!

1970 v Castleford.
Bill Francis and Peter Rowe were the centres with Keri Jones and Kevin O'Loughlin on the wings.
David Hill was stand off with Frankie Parr at scrum half.
The sub (only one then) was Cliff Hill who replaced fullback Colin Tyrer after that dirty little Keith Hepworth broke Tyrers jaw with the worst off the ball tackle I have ever seen.

we didnt make wembley in 70
was 71

francis and kev o loughlin ?

edit.......apologies......was 70

season 69/70 according to club records vs Cas

It was the 1969 - 70 season and it was Francis an Rowe.

already apologised.

should have remembered...it was my first Wembley.....but i dont remember the game....i was p!$$ed

How old were you then? It was my 2nd Wembley and I wasn't pi55ed - but I was only 11!

It was my third Wembley, but the earliest that I remember clearly.

I seem to remember that Sash had the game of his life, for little reward.

For some reason though, I found 1984 much more disappointing, possibly because we'd gone there on such a tide of confidence and yet were never really in it.

It was my sixth Wembley Final (aged 21). I'll never forgive Hepworth for that assault.(You could never call it a tackle)

I agree that 84 was a bitter disappointment - it's not that Widnes played particularly well, but they had 2 Joe Lydon long range tries and their first where Kieran O'Loughlin juggled with the ball in the build-up.

I remember sitting next to my dad in 84 aand he was mortified that Wigan were actually losing a Wembley final he attended. He'd been in 48, 51, 58, 59, 65, but not in 46, 61, 63, 66 and 70 because of work commitments. He really was amazed...!

That's why 85 was so sweet for so many of us - my first Wembley win despite having been watching Wigan for 20 years. I was deemed to be too young (aged 6 ) in 1965, although I got my first season ticket that year (cost 7 shillings and 6 pence - 37.5 pence in new money!)

Ashurst should have won the Lance Todd Trophy that year, the announcer was handed a slip of paper with no.11 on it, presuming it meant that number from the winning team (Castleford), he awarded it to Bill Kirkbride, when in fact it should have been the Wigan no.11, 'King' Bill Ashurst !!!!