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I am just going to start coaching my local amateur rugby league club, I am very excited. However, I have been to a few of the teams games and they are poor defensively. Does anyone have any drills/techniques that could help? Please help.
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[quote="Rob Wire":qtnftxzx]WIGAN ARE BACK to what exactly ? Oh i see what you mean, back to beating weakened teams. How many key players did we have missing in the cup ?
Just remind us again how many key players did Saints have missing in last years grand final ?
When did you actually last beat a strong Saints or Warringtom team ? Don't include beating us last year at the HJ, we had a lead of around 14pts and were cruising then we lost both Briers and Monaghan, another example of Wigan capitalising on other teams misfortunes.[/quote:qtnftxzx]
[color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx][list:qtnftxzx]Gotta' love 'em.[/list:u:qtnftxzx][/color:qtnftxzx]
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Get them wrestling and slowing the tackle down...
In terms of drills, it's gotta be learning to communicate & slide against a ball shifting attack?
Mind you, depends what element of defence is poor?
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| Quote: the-Bowtun-Warrior "Get them wrestling and slowing the tackle down...
In terms of drills, it's gotta be learning to communicate & slide against a ball shifting attack?
Mind you, depends what element of defence is poor?'" ]
I'm thinking about the wrestling technique. They are generally poor at lining up in defence and sliding defence. Some of the tackling is fantastic but is let down by holes in the line. |
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Deffo work on drills to get defenders sliding and communicating. 1more attacker than defenders and get them sliding
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| Quote: Pieman2010 "I'm thinking about the wrestling technique. They are generally poor at lining up in defence and sliding defence. Some of the tackling is fantastic but is let down by holes in the line.'"
too many shooting out of the line going for the glory hit? |
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| Quote: WigansForeignLegion ""Pieman2010" wrote
Nope. Just too many not keeping up with the line. It's not a great start to coaching life 
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| Quote: Pieman2010 "Nope. Just too many not keeping up with the line. It's not a great start to coaching life ![]()
Fitness issues?
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[quote="Rob Wire":qtnftxzx]WIGAN ARE BACK to what exactly ? Oh i see what you mean, back to beating weakened teams. How many key players did we have missing in the cup ?
Just remind us again how many key players did Saints have missing in last years grand final ?
When did you actually last beat a strong Saints or Warringtom team ? Don't include beating us last year at the HJ, we had a lead of around 14pts and were cruising then we lost both Briers and Monaghan, another example of Wigan capitalising on other teams misfortunes.[/quote:qtnftxzx]
[color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx][list:qtnftxzx]Gotta' love 'em.[/list:u:qtnftxzx][/color:qtnftxzx]
[color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx]"You can shove yer f****** England up yer a***"[/color:qtnftxzx]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51917.jpg |
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if they're not keeping up with the line, you could try a drill to get them upto speed, so they can get back in the line and move with the line. Then work on the tackling and sliding defence.
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Its not really a fitness issue. Most of the lads are fit, its just some are too keen and jump out of the line, whereas the others are just holding back, kind of. It's hard to figure out.
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| Quote: the18thman "if they're not keeping up with the line, you could try a drill to get them upto speed, so they can get back in the line and move with the line. Then work on the tackling and sliding defence.'"
Get them to stick as a line and do what I know as the 'lines drill'.
Start on try line.
Run up 10m, back 10m
Up 20, back 20...
And so on.
As fatigue hits some will drop and it's upto every man in the line to stay together and motivate those struggling |
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[quote="Rob Wire":qtnftxzx]WIGAN ARE BACK to what exactly ? Oh i see what you mean, back to beating weakened teams. How many key players did we have missing in the cup ?
Just remind us again how many key players did Saints have missing in last years grand final ?
When did you actually last beat a strong Saints or Warringtom team ? Don't include beating us last year at the HJ, we had a lead of around 14pts and were cruising then we lost both Briers and Monaghan, another example of Wigan capitalising on other teams misfortunes.[/quote:qtnftxzx]
[color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx][list:qtnftxzx]Gotta' love 'em.[/list:u:qtnftxzx][/color:qtnftxzx]
[color=#FF0000:qtnftxzx]"You can shove yer f****** England up yer a***"[/color:qtnftxzx]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51917.jpg |
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| Quote: Pieman2010 "Its not really a fitness issue. Most of the lads are fit, its just some are too keen and jump out of the line, whereas the others are just holding back, kind of. It's hard to figure out.'"
Well you have to some how teach those to stay in the line and move out together as a unit. Not sure how you would as im no coach. |
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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: Pieman2010 "I'm thinking about the wrestling technique. They are generally poor at lining up in defence and sliding defence. Some of the tackling is fantastic but is let down by holes in the line.'" If you are thinking of that then the first one in as got to hit the ball it's so important if you have 3 in a tackle and they slip that ball away you have a gap a bus could fit through
First thing is getting them to move up in a line and cut out this glory shot stuff |
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Which amateur club is this?
Get them moving as a line together. We did a really good drill when I used to play, we all got tied together with long rope so you had to move together or you all just fell over.
After 4 times of falling over we learned the lesson.
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[quote="Mark"]Great game of rugby league. Fantastic atmosphere, Wigan were breathtaking and dominant in all areas for the first 25 minutes, coupled with us making alot of dumb mistakes,then fortunately they brought McIlorum on which helped us back into the game. I thought some of the tries we scored to get us within two we're out of this world stuff. Towards the end we had to force it a little and we had a few things go wrong, i.e Monas kick on the first for King and Solomona going off who was causing havoc. Wigan were clinical in their eventual execution of us. Proud of Wire today and gave us a little glimpse to the future. Silverwood was awful as per, but I expect no less. Tomkins is a world class player and by far the best english player in SL. Wigan are a champion side and would be a worthy winner of taking our title as challenge cup. Good luck over the next month and a bit.[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23997.jpg |
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| Quote: p1e e8ter "Which amateur club is this?
Get them moving as a line together. We did a really good drill when I used to play, we all got tied together with long rope so you had to move together or you all just fell over.
After 4 times of falling over we learned the lesson.'" I'd disagree with the rope thing you dont have it in a game
If you do none stop line work with them they will get so ****ed off they will want to get it right to stop it just keep doing it untill they get it right |
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