The more I think about it the more I agree with the above sentiments. The fact George played through injury this season doesn't mean he is injury prone. He just picked up an injury but played through it and still gave some excellent performances.

I think it depends on the view of SW, MM and IL as to what is best for the club when they look at the bigger picture in that they will have an idea of can his undoubted quality as a player be replaced readily enough and what the salary cap implications are of giving him a new deal (this is where IL comes in!).

My own view is it would be ideal if he could be used to ease players into the team over the next two years rather than letting him go and giving Goulding and Thornley too much exposure. By the end of two years Gleeson will be at the end of his career as well which is something else to consider. It means in the next two years we have to replace two of the best centres in the competition. I just don't see how letting George go now and relying on the younger players will advance the sides chances in the short term next season as I don't see the younger players as up to taking his place nor is there an obvious centre recruit to come in which I am not sure we'd want anyway as they would want a longer deal as well thus keeping the young players out.

It's a bit of a dilemma!

Dave

If Carmont wants 2 years i would give him 2 years personally. I wouldn't say he is injury prone and don't think he has missed too many matches either in his stay here even though he has been carrying a knock for some time. Throughout his time at wigan he has been our best centre by a pretty large margin, on one leg or not, and i think we would be daft to let him leave for the sake of an extra year. If we do end up letting him go however i would hope that this would be because our new coaching setup had decided that Goulding/Pryce/Thornley were going to slot in here for the whole season (and were ready to do so) and not sign someone else to play in Carmonts place.

I agree. I think signing someone else to replace him would mean signing an establish pro on a two or three year deal and they would block the progression of the players you mention which is why (I assume) the club don't want to offer Carmont two years in the first place.

Replacing Carmont with a similar level of player for two years seems pointless, doing it for longer by dishing out a three year deal is even worse from the younger players development point of view.

The only way we should sign a replacement for Carmont is if we get a world class centre in his prime. Hardily likely to happen.

Dave

Another option could be to play Roberts at centre (where he has played in the NRL) and play Ainscough on the wing.

Worst idea you've ever come up with, don't think Roberts at centre would work. Doesn't seem big enough or powerful enough or even have the quality passing skills to be a centre.

Don't think this is a good idea personally. He is only just starting to settle at wing so i don't think it would help to move him to centre and hope for the best. If you are looking at fitting Ainscough in and don't think the younger lads are ready for centre i would rather see Phelps at centre with Richards at fullback leaving a wing spot for him that way.

An absolutely horrible thought. worst option possible

I've just seen on the Quins page that LMS could be a potential target for the Bulls!

Anyone else think we should go for him as well?

I'd be very disappointed if we didn't. I 'd also be disappointed if we got into a bidding war with Bradford and they won, given the state their club is in compared to ours.

Whats IL situation with quins?

Did he ever sell his shares. i doubt he'll try and sign Quins best players if hes still as money involved

I don't know were he stands with Quins any more?

I do know he's a player IL has a history of working with and one he respects as well.

IL may not particularly want to sign LMS whilst he's under contract at Quins but i can't see him standing around and missing out on him if Bradford came on the scene.

I honestly can’t see LMS staying beyond his current contract as Quins. At the end of the day it’s a short career and any decent player would want to be playing in the later rounds of the cup and playoffs which isn’t something he’s going to be doing with Quins any time soon.

I think its a job for Wane to sell the club to LMS.

I think it would be shame for Quins if LMS left. One of the things that should be happening in RL is to reward clubs for producing their own players.

As you know (or should as I've been banging the drum for five years about it) I believe that any player who comes through a clubs academy system particularly from their own service area should have a percentage of their salary exempt from the "cap" calculation.