FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > It doesn't add up
22 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member32358
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Wigan are :-
3rd top try scorers
2nd top metre makers
top for offloads
3rd top for tackle busts
3rd top for clean breaks

With those stats we should not be in 8th position.

Missed goals and penalties conceded appear to be part of the reason.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wigan are

I wonder where we are for missed tackles, knock-ons, knock-ons on the first tackle, knock-ons in our own red zone, kicking possession away, loss of concentration, general poor decision making, etc.

It's another big game tonight. We've got to show that we can back up from last week, and that we can put a decent team away. Another desperate scramble won't convince me that anything has changed, even if we take the points. We must play well in all aspects.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4988No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Jan 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Very high cruncher.

Imagine we're near the top in the "tries conceded" league and near the bottom in the "chances converted" - we never seem to be able to get over the oppositions line, the times I've watched us this season I've always been left with the impression that giving the opposition two early tries we might as well have given them four or five. We don't seem capable of getting over the try line.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4957No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wigan are


Just proves the saying....'There are lies, damn lies, and statistics'.........maybe some coaches shouldn't rely on them so much !! icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29779
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



When we've won games we've won them well in the main but when we've lost it's always been pretty close.

If only we could turn some of these close defeats into wins we'd be very very close to having a half decent side.

It's all about attitude.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach903
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Rogues Gallery "Missed goals and penalties conceded appear to be part of the reason.'"


Paaaaaat's form has definitely been off the mark with his goal kicking this year.

Obviously he's going to miss a few but compared to last year his conversion rate must be way down from the 80-odd percent he was getting.

It'd be interesting to see what, if any, games we might have one if he'd have kicked better.

Don't think it helped that earlier in the season our backup kickers proved to be about as good as my Mum (I'm looking at you Roberts and Riddell).

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach17844No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: ksm1701 "Paaaaaat's form has definitely been off the mark with his goal kicking this year.

Obviously he's going to miss a few but compared to last year his conversion rate must be way down from the 80-odd percent he was getting.

It'd be interesting to see what, if any, games we might have one if he'd have kicked better.

Don't think it helped that earlier in the season our backup kickers proved to be about as good as my Mum (I'm looking at you Roberts and Riddell).'"
It might have something to do with the fact we can only score tries out wide off kicks...etc

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5799No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015May 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: king warrior "It might have something to do with the fact we can only score tries out wide off kicks...etc'"


I was going to say that, most of our tries have came out wide and you can see that on the other thread where Richards and Ainscough are clear of the rest in the try scoring.

However if Pat can do what he did on Sunday with Vella then he doesnt have to worry about kicking for the touchline icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach903
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: king warrior "It might have something to do with the fact we can only score tries out wide off kicks...etc'"


Did we score all our tries under the sticks last year? Richards was top try scorer from FB last year followed by Carmont at left centre.

Surely most of Carmont's tries were scored out on that left side.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12860No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I suppose it's something Bilko touched on yesterday saying we cannot hold our nerve in close games. We have not done as much wrong as we think. We should be in at least 5th with those stats.

We have lost 8 games in the league by 12 points or less most of those being by 8 points or less.

I am pretty sure with someone like Barrett in our team this season we would of come through most of these games with the win, especially games against Celtic, Wakey, Cas, Hull KR.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach903
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Feb 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Just had a look at cherryandwhite.co.uk and it has Pat's goal kicking at 80.1% last season and 69.8% for this.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12860No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: ksm1701 "Just had a look at cherryandwhite.co.uk and it has Pat's goal kicking at 80.1% last season and 69.8% for this.'"


Surely that is down to where we are scoring our tries and not the reason we are losing games.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3928No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2011Jul 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: odemwingie "I suppose it's something Bilko touched on yesterday saying we cannot hold our nerve in close games. We have not done as much wrong as we think. We should be in at least 5th with those stats. '"


-We need that extra bit of cleverness or class e.g. Hull KR at home with the game in the balance Smith decides to run it on the last tackle in his own half and gets charged down. Stupid play

-Warrington away an extra bit of composure needed in front of their line with the repeat set of six’s we had.

-Wakey at home 1st game of the season Tim Smith kicks the majority of ball away.

-Saints Easter weekend we had them on the ropes and couldn’t score but yet we had repeated sets on their line.

Like you said we need a HB to create that spark with a run or magic pass like Trent used to do as well as a HB that can take the right options at the right time.

Our fortunes are easy to turn around next season if the right people are brought in.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member291No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2010Jan 2010LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I would like to see how many trys have been put past us from silly penalties that the players dont seem to learn from. I think thats why were 8th and not were we should be also the soft defence at times.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12860No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: thepriestman85 "-We need that extra bit of cleverness or class e.g. Hull KR at home with the game in the balance Smith decides to run it on the last tackle in his own half and gets charged down. Stupid play

-Warrington away an extra bit of composure needed in front of their line with the repeat set of six’s we had.

-Wakey at home 1st game of the season Tim Smith kicks the majority of ball away.

-Saints Easter weekend we had them on the ropes and couldn’t score but yet we had repeated sets on their line.

Like you said we need a HB to create that spark with a run or magic pass like Trent used to do as well as a HB that can take the right options at the right time.

Our fortunes are easy to turn around next season if the right people are brought in.'"


Good post but I do not think it is just the creative side of things that Trent would of brought this season, just his leadership may of brought us through some of those games with the win.

22 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
22 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.9482421875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
32s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
46s
2025 Shirt
--[ WW ]--
27
2m
Film game
karetaker
5859
3m
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
3m
Leeds away first up
FIL
51
4m
Season pass roll call
Armavinit
38
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
4m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
4m
How many games will we win
Wollo-Wollo-
54
5m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
12
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,464 ↓-2480,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
32s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
46s
2025 Shirt
--[ WW ]--
27
2m
Film game
karetaker
5859
3m
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
3m
Leeds away first up
FIL
51
4m
Season pass roll call
Armavinit
38
4m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
4m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
4m
How many games will we win
Wollo-Wollo-
54
5m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Looking for a Good Time Connect with Local Ladies in Your T
hcc
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
12
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
50
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!