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| Heard a whisper coming from inside the Wigan camp that Eamon may be signing for Huddersfield and Darrell Griffin coming to Wigan!!
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| Quote: ipsl_rl "Heard a whisper coming from inside the Wigan camp that Eamon may be signing for Huddersfield and Darrell Griffin coming to Wigan!!'"
That rumour has been hanging about on the "other" board for a while now.
Hope there is nothing in it myself as until his injury O'Carroll was going great for us was often the best out of Fielden, Coley and himself (before Coley found his current form).
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| Griffin is a reasonable forward, but i dotn see how Wigan would gain anything by getting rid of O'Carroll.
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| might as well. they've got half of Wigan there already. plus they want mossop
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| As much as i dislike saying it, i do not think we can continue to satisfy 2 junior Props in our squad with the gametime they require. We have to make a choice of who we see as the better prospect between him and Prescott, especially with Davis sounding like he is hot on there heals as well.
I personally think it would be a good move by the club, although a tough decision to make, bringing in another big unit grafting Prop would put us in a much stronger porition than we currently are upfront. Its these tough decisions that will see us sink or swim as a club and team over the next few years, when you consider the secondrow situation and outside back situation at the club.
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| no deal for me
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| No deal, sell Fielden instead?
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| Quote: Grimmy "sell Fielden instead?'"
Check the stats, and you will realise how stupid that comment is.
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| Quote: Kench Lucas "no deal for me'"
No kench.
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[quote="kimmo":19twb50c]your 6 7 and 9 this year will kill you off you will not make the play offs ,keep this post untill the end of the year and then we will come back to it and the best man wins ,deal or no deal .[/quote:19twb50c]: |
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| Quote: jonh "As much as i dislike saying it, i do not think we can continue to satisfy 2 junior Props in our squad with the gametime they require. We have to make a choice of who we see as the better prospect between him and Prescott, especially with Davis sounding like he is hot on there heals as well.
I personally think it would be a good move by the club, although a tough decision to make, bringing in another big unit grafting Prop would put us in a much stronger porition than we currently are upfront. Its these tough decisions that will see us sink or swim as a club and team over the next few years, when you consider the secondrow situation and outside back situation at the club.'"
Prescott is far too injury prone at this moment in time to even begin to consider this. O'Carroll up to the point where he got injured was our best prop. It would be a real bad move from the club if we got rid. A loan deal yes but a permenant move would be stupid.
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| Quote: jonh "As much as i dislike saying it, i do not think we can continue to satisfy 2 junior Props in our squad with the gametime they require. We have to make a choice of who we see as the better prospect between him and Prescott, especially with Davis sounding like he is hot on there heals as well.
I personally think it would be a good move by the club, although a tough decision to make, bringing in another big unit grafting Prop would put us in a much stronger porition than we currently are upfront. Its these tough decisions that will see us sink or swim as a club and team over the next few years, when you consider the secondrow situation and outside back situation at the club.'"
It's another of those situations that would be a 'no winner' for the club. Despite the sensible argument you post above, there would be the usual angry response from many posters (some of whom will be the same ones who've been calling for a new prop for some time, apparently oblvious to the reality that it might sound the transfer bell for one of our youngsters).
That said, I'd hope we'd release Coley before O'Carroll. He's the form prop at present, but he's much older and his contract runs out very soon.
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| No way was O'Carroll our best prop up to him getting injured!
He was alright but we have improved significantly upfront with Prescott in the Squad instead!
Prescott being a far bigger unit is taking a lot of steam out of the opposition when taking the ball in and physically dominates players far better than O'Carroll.
I think Prescott has been one of the contributing factors to Coley inparticular and Fielden's upturn in form, He's taking a lot of pressure of them.
O'Carroll is full of enthusiasm and is a touch quicker but will never be more than a 4th/5th choice prop at a club that wants to Challenge/Win things.
As Jonh says a tough decision needs to be made about O'Carroll/Prescott & for me Prescott wins Hands down every time. If O'Carroll is prepared to stay and play for peanuts then fair enough, if Not (And I wouldn't blame him) then he may need to go somewhere else to get more game time etc.
IMHO he wouldn't come back to Haunt us if he did leave.
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| Quote: {Hogan} "Check the stats, and you will realise how stupid that comment is.'"
Very hard to accurately compare the two as I can't find a stat for 'minutes played', plus O'Carroll's been injured for most of the games we've hit form in, both of these give Fielden an unfair advantage.
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O'Carroll - 7 metres per carry, 0 errors per game, 0.3 penalties per game, 22 tackles per game, 1 missed tackle per game
Fielden - 7 metres per carry, 0.5 errors per game, 0.3 penalties per game, 25 tackles per game, 2 missed tackles per game
Not much to choose between the two, having said that I'm wary of the stats on the super league site, for example they say Fielden's made 35 tackle busts this season, which simply hasn't happened.
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[quote="kimmo":19twb50c]your 6 7 and 9 this year will kill you off you will not make the play offs ,keep this post untill the end of the year and then we will come back to it and the best man wins ,deal or no deal .[/quote:19twb50c]: |
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| Quote: Jukesays "No way was O'Carroll our best prop up to him getting injured!
He was alright but we have improved significantly upfront with Prescott in the Squad instead!
Prescott being a far bigger unit is taking a lot of steam out of the opposition when taking the ball in and physically dominates players far better than O'Carroll.
I think Prescott has been one of the contributing factors to Coley inparticular and Fielden's upturn in form, He's taking a lot of pressure of them.
O'Carroll is full of enthusiasm and is a touch quicker but will never be more than a 4th/5th choice prop at a club that wants to Challenge/Win things.
As Jonh says a tough decision needs to be made about O'Carroll/Prescott & for me Prescott wins Hands down every time. If O'Carroll is prepared to stay and play for peanuts then fair enough, if Not (And I wouldn't blame him) then he may need to go somewhere else to get more game time etc.
IMHO he wouldn't come back to Haunt us if he did leave.'"
Have we improved because of Prescott or have we improved because both Coley and Fielden have upped there game lately?
Personally I think Prescott has been ok...not outstanding by any means. He looks a bit sluggish and slow to me.
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| Quote: - Neil - "Have we improved because of Prescott or have we improved because both Coley and Fielden have upped there game lately?
Personally I think Prescott has been ok...not outstanding by any means. He looks a bit sluggish and slow to me.'"
I don't think the 2 our unconnected, I think Prescott is helping them far more in this dept than O'Carroll was.
He takes 3 men to bring him down nearly every time! He also Wrestles and tires them out by staying on his feet longer.
4 or 5 occassions last week he drove the ball in and 2 tacklers met him, but 2 more were attracted as he had to stay on his feet and had to come in to wrestle him down.
As for him being "Sluggish", that I can understand as I do think he lacks a bit of Zip.
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IMO as a team we need the attributes that Prescott brings to the game (Size,Strength and Physical Presence etc) rather than what O'Carroll brings (Speed, movement etc).
Early season we all said that we were crying out for an enforcer Prop. I belive that Prescott (Whilst not being an enforcer prop as such) is closer to that than What O'Carrol is and our defincies as a team our masked better when Prescott plays than O'Carrol.
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