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Cannot defend to save his life.

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Smith's attempted tackle on Ferres for the try was nothing short of (and I hate to use this word) cowardly, at one point it looked like a clip from 'Strictly Come Dancing'.

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Quote: twosevenzero "Smith's attempted tackle on Ferres for the try was nothing short of (and I hate to use this word) cowardly, at one point it looked like a clip from 'Strictly Come Dancing'.'"


He just stayed down for ages after that try while everyone walked off under the posts. Not a good sign.

I know stand offs aren't known for being the best defenders but Smith is just taking the p"ss.

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Quote: Cadoo! "Cannot defend to save his life.'"


Neither can Lee Briers or Sean Long but they won't get the same amount of stick that Tim Smith gets.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Neither can Lee Briers or Sean Long but they won't get the same amount of stick that Tim Smith gets.

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Doesn't make it anymore acceptable though does it?

But TBH Sean Long and Lee Briers are better than Tim Smith in defense.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Neither can Lee Briers or Sean Long but they won't get the same amount of stick that Tim Smith gets.

rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season'"


The difference being Long and Briers create things for their clubs. Last night Tim Smith just ponced about waving his arms everywhere, missing tackles and doing nothing going forward aside from a few poor kicks.

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Quote: Cadoo! "Doesn't make it anymore acceptable though does it?

But TBH Sean Long and Lee Briers are better than Tim Smith in defense.'"


Before we signed Tim Smith, there were always potential issues with him defending outwide. He used to defend much further in at Parra. Also, our defence is extremely slow to slide out and our opposition are getting outside us with alarming regularity, this isn't helping us out wide. Things didn't change on that right side when he switched with Leuluai.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Neither can Lee Briers or Sean Long but they won't get the same amount of stick that Tim Smith gets.

rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season'"


They both kick better , organise better, are quicker and show more commitment to their team and teamates than Smith.

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To quote BilkoTomkins has to come in next week. Whatever Tim Smith does in attack is wasted because his defence his amateurish. '"


Second this.

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Quote: Cadoo! "To quote Bilko

Thirded

His defence is awful

Has the guy been taking lessons of Mathers

Is it down to poor technique, no bottle or both

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The last tackle options last night were perhaps the worst I've ever seen from a Wigan team (and I remember Wendy Whitfield being our playmaker). DUMB plays - kicking out on the full, hoofing it more or less straight over the dead ball line and when they actually decided to run it they did so when aboslutely nothing was on and there was no support. The halves look absolutely lost at the moment and why the holy feck Tomkins can't be given a run with Tommy going to hooker I have no idea at all.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Neither can Lee Briers or Sean Long but they won't get the same amount of stick that Tim Smith gets.

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agree 100%

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You could even say we are missing Trent in defense more than in attack due to Smiths aweful tackling.

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Tim Smith is too hot and cold for my liking. One week he looks to be hitting form the next he looks like Dennis Moran MK2. The problem is hes only young and fairly inexperienced himself. What we need is a really experienced halfback partner next to him who can do the organising and kicking whilst Smith concentrates on set plays.

On the subject of halfbacks,i though Sean Long was awesome against Warrington last week. He virtually won Saints the game single handed.He was dancing about mid field drawing the Warrington defence in then moving the ball wide leaving acres of space for Pryce and Gidley to run into. Warrington couldnt lay a hand on Long.

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