ok the season has started and the message boards are buzzing.now what would you say makes a good coach and an example of who you think is.

John Monie. Not only was he a great coach he knew how a club runs from top to bottom.

Someone who can motivate a team and has all the players behind him.

As a Wigan coach I would agree.

On a further scale I would say Wayne Bennett.

Wayne Bennett is THE ultimate coach.

a good coach is one that :

makes the team greater than the sum of its resources
drums in the basics, so that when players are under pressure, their game holds up
teaches players the ability to play 'off script', and to be able to cope when plan a goes wrong
can see the attributes and skills in a player that will add to the squad
doesnt need a fortune, but can make the best of what he has given

in sl
tony smith
mick potter

outside rugby
brian clough
alex ferguson
ne wenger

what makes a good coach,should be simple but remember first graham lowe great coach at wigan then went over to manley and got sacked ,john monie came from parramatta when they were near the bottom of the nrl,coached wigan who then were a great side.went to nz warriors got sacked,came back to wigan got sacked.two best coaches imo are wayne bennett and tim sheens,they have stood the test of time.

If the setup is right for the coach then it works for them. If the setup of a club does not go well with the coach, then the coach wont do well. You can have a team full of allstars, but if the chairman is too involved then the coach can do nothing....

Every coach/club is different.

Nobby not got long left at Wigan then ??

Who can say? But his contract is due to expire at the end of this season.

Strange turn-around really. For the last two and a half years, Wigan fans have been subjected to Nobby's mind-games, wherein he's been constantly rumoured to have been looking for greener pastures at other clubs. I wonder how he feels now that it's the Wigan fans who are looking to make the switch?

Two things make a successful manager in any field:

Communication - he has to be able to communicate equally effectively to his players, to his Chairman, to press and to the supporters. Roy Keane showed that ignoring the people with the purse strings is ultimately futile, and Tony Adams lack of communication abilities probably cost him his chance of being a successful head coach.

Team building - A coach needs to be able to builld a strong team, not just on the pitch, but probably equally importantly off it. Clive Woodward did that with England, Gatland is doing it at Wales now (along with Edwards). Anderson was greatly helped at Saints by his staff, especially with the likes of Perelini who had huge respect from the players.

Excellent point there!

Another example would be Man Utd all the players that go there seem to improve no end after a season or two there. They are all forced to adopt high standards set by the senior players and if they don’t like it then they are soon out.

A good coach as you say creates the right environment for his players to progress and develop. Clive Woodward was an absolute master of it at England he brought in and surrounded himself with all the best coaches he could get his hands on, he got the team training at the best facilities and used the same base for all the England training camps. Add to that he was using what were advanced training techniques stolen from numerous other fields and you have a recipe for success.

I’ve said it before but I’d love an innovator like that to come to Wigan and maximise the unrivalled potential we have in the town. We’ve got a huge talented junior base, top facilities with Orrell and one of the premier reputations in the whole sport. We should at least me able to attract a better standard of fitness coaches than Forshaw shouldn’t we?

My top three would be:
Jack Gibson
Wayne Bennett
Vince Lombardi

Off the top of my head, I would say a good coach must be prepared, organised, an outstanding communicator at all levels, a motivator, an inspisration, a leader, a tactician, flexible, a good listener, a diplomat.

Which of those boxes does the Wheel Chair RL coach tick?

A good coach has to be have a bit of everything in there nal, they have to be a leader, a psychologist, sometimes a friend sometimes a foe, byt the key attributed for me that are crucial for any coach are:-

Knowledge-clearly you have to know your subject matter that you are coaching, the greater the knowledge then the more chance you have at being successfull. You have to constantly strive to improve your knowledge and apply it as trends evolve and the game changes. If you are standing still in any coaching discipline in real terms you are moving backwards.

Communication-You can be the most knowledgable person in the world but if you cannot communicate that knowledge at a the correct level to the people you are coaching you may as well not bother.

Man Management- It is crucial you know how to deal with the characters and eho's in the team, although a coach is in charge of a team a team is only the sum of its individual parts, you have to know what makes each individual tick, what kind of stimulus they respond to best, ie a kick up the aris or a softly softly approach, you have to treat each member of the team as an individual and identify key relationships they have that are of benefit to the group, and nurture them and erradicate any negative relationships. You also have to be a good judge of character and surround yourselves with quality individuals on and off the pitch to support you. You also have to be open to new ideas and exploring new options striving for personal growth rather than stagnating.

I do not doubt any Wigan coach including the current one do not tick all the boxes for knowledge, i do think that some of them lost there jobs because of the second 2.

Good coaches are those that have managed to be employed for a career length in whichever field they work. Alex Furgusson is a fantastic coach, Wayne Bennett Jack Gibson, Vern Gambetta, Wilf Paige etc.