How good is Sam Tomkins going to get? I think he has improved on last year and plays a much more rounded game of rugby league, but still throws in moments of absolute brilliance. For me, the second "juggle try" against Saints is up with anything I've seen from Wigan over the years for sheer wizardry. We've had our legends at Wigan - this man is one of them!

It's perhaps easy to become a bit complacent and take what he does for granted - well having watched Wigan for over 40 years now, I've seen a few "special ones" and I am enjoying every chance I get to watch this one play.

don't get me wrong, that one was great try but more down to his amazing pace

Yes, definitely. If you exclude the step, the dummy, the change of direction....

Aaaaaanyway, he skinned and humiliated Paul Wellens, which makes the try even more amazing.

surely you mean LESS amazing, even I could skin and humilate Paul Wellens

Who isn't skinning Slug Wellens? Hock did it. Even Finch did it in the Cup Tie.

He's a future captain of our great club.

I was ridiculed for saying a year or two ago that he could be as good as Hanley and that he might even turn out to be a better player, such are his natural gifts.

I stand by that. This lad has everything.

He's a level above Farrell and Robinson already: they were great players but he is even more special.

I'm not old enough to have seen Murphy or Boston but in my lifetime there's only Hanley that I've seen that is above him as a British player and in my estimation he is closing on the great man.

Tomkins is the kind of player that comes along only once every few decades. I sense that the tide of opinion has turned now and even non-Wigan fans (other than die-hard Wigan hating nutters) have put aside their envy of Wigan and are starting to appreciate the rare talent of Tomkins.

Best I've personally ever seen play for our club in my 16 years watching the club. Not exaggerating, he's the most exciting player in world rugby for me at the moment along with Greg Inglis and Ben Barba

I rate Billy Slater as the best in the world, but I wouldn't swap Sam,for him or anybody at this moment in time.

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Sam has not got 'amazing pace' he is quick dont get me wrong but there are quiet a few players in sl who are quicker than Sam

The problem for other teams and what makes Sam so good is his foot work and turn of pace of a standing mark which puts these faster players off balance and that is where he gets the edge, every coach in sl will have watched tapes over and over again of Sam but they cant do anything cause 90% of the time it's off the cuff even our players dont know what he's going to do

There's many players in the NRL who are better but I'm the same Sam is ours and he plays his heart out for us wouldn't have any one else over him, legend in the making.

That's my take on it. He's quick enough not to get caught from behind (generally), but he's not lightning quick. The difference is his change of direction and balance - nobody can keep up with it. He's also deceptively strong which helps him shrug off challenges.

As we all know he's a special player.

added to that is Sam's speed of thought process, he can spot a gap by the minute movement of the opposition defenders and react to it instictively. He beats defenders also by his own body movement, a drop of the shoulder or a swerve of the hips opens up a gap for him also.

I was out for a beer or three a couple of weeks ago at a well known real ale pub in Wigan. A member of our group, who like me has been watching Wigan a long long time said that Sam was the best fullback he has ever seen at Wigan. I thought about the likes of Tyrer, Fairbairn, Griffiths, Ashby, Lydon, Radders etc and do you know what, it's very hard to disagree with him.