Think a few changes are to be made after that performance, we looked much better with French at fullback (Zak has made himself to look like a right tit saying he is the best fullback in the league and following it up with 2 terrible performances) and Smith gets a start every week for me even if Leuluai is fit. He needs to be our main goal kicker.

French
Manfredi
Hardaker
Isa
Bibby
Smith
Hastings
Singleton
Powell
Harvard
Farrell
Bateman
Partington

Smithies
Shorrocks
Bullock
Leuluai/Byrne

I’ve not had a chance to kick the cat yet before I can even start to think about the next game

I agree re Smith but he is showing some naivety in his last tackle options. That isn’t a reason to leave him out mind and it’ll improve over time

They were diabolical today close to the Hull line but the only way he improves I’d by playing.

As for the Leigh game, I don’t have an issue with the personnel on the field today. They’ve had a shocking day at the office but I’m pretty happy they’re our best players (and that’s a worry in some areas). If nobody else is back then same again bar Manfredi starting (who looked sharp which was pleasing), Isa at 12 and Bateman 13, with Partington dropping to the bench.

Byrne would be no where near my team, pathetic defence and couldnt catch a cold

He’s had a bad day in what’s been a good season so far.

hes not had a good season at all saying that we havent yet, struggled through games and today was just pathetic

Byrne has without any doubt in my mind had a good season so far. There’s no denying he was woeful today but he wasn’t on his own and he’s the least of our worries. Young Havard is worrying me more. It’s probably a case of second season syndrome but he’s being dominated quite comfortably at the minute. I expected him to kick on this season and even push for a World Cup spot but he’s struggling. He needs to find an aggressive streak from somewhere. That’s not going round punching people or kicking off but aggression to hit the line hard, aggression to keep pumping his legs in contact and aggression in defence. He’s a special talent for me but it all just looks a bit lethargic at the minute. It’s probably a sad indictment of where we find ourselves in the front row that we need to ask for so much more from a 20 year old kid.

1.French
2. Manfredi
3. Hardaker
4. Isa
5. Bibby
6. Hastings
7. Tommy

The powder puff pack picks itself.

Zak has been great at fullback individually great apart from the last 2 weeks but as a team we are significantly better with French at 1.

The aim of Wigan is to win trophies not be a conduit for Hardaker to get an international shirt at the expense of the teams success.

Smith can kick a goal, but off the back of today if Tommy is fit he plays every week.

Smiths last tackle plays have been shocking this season and by far the worst I’ve seen in some time today.

The lad clearly has talent but it’s a bit soon for him to take the step up at being out 7 at the moment.

so is all our pack, thats the main issue, Byrne is also a year older which is massive for a prop

I think we’ll all agree that’s the main issue. I can only think of one bigger issue but we’re stuck with him until at least the end of this season.

But French has been equally bad. Granted he's been out of position, but surely you have to perform to move someone that's been more than decent.

One game neither breaks or makes a season imo.

were they worse than Hastings? If they were you have to wonder why the more experienced former MOS didnt step up and try and take over them

I’d agree re Harvard. He looks like his hearts not in it.

does in the cup