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would you say he was your best goal kicker of all time...

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I've been watching us since 1990 and he's the best i've seen by quite a way.

As for alltime he must be right up there but it's hard for me to judge.

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Jim Sullivan?

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Quote: blond viking "would you say he was your best goal kicker of all time...'"


Legend, quality player, and to think when he came over from the All Blacks he said he needed to improve his kicking just to get in the Wigan team. Quality player and a nice person as well.

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My Dad places Sully just ahead of Botica.

Botica is the best I have seen.

Thing is, he wasn't known as a kicker before he came to Wigan. He had to do it to get in the team.

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Edwards said a young andy farrell was always beating botica at goal kicking at training

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Jim Sullivan?'"

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Quote: blond viking "would you say he was your best goal kicker of all time...'"


Without question.
And so precise you could tune a piano to his kicks.
A bonafide legend amongst a team of legends. icon_cool.gif

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Still remember when we signed him. First I saw of him was a bloke kicking goal after goal on St James' primary school field on Worsley Mesnes. His kids used to run after the balls and bring them back to him. One of my heroes and a club legend.

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Easy Jim Sullivan.

Top League Goal Scorer 16 (yes 16!) times out of 18 full seasons playing at Wigan.
Top league points scorer 12 times.

When you consider he didn't score that many tries to still be top point scorer 12 times highlights how good his kicking was.

Can't really argue with that although in modern times of any side Botica was on his own level. I suppose if he'd have played 18 years at Wigan he'd have done the same probably. Who knows.

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Botica for me.

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Have to admit I never saw Sullivan kick goals and clearly he must have been good but Frano was a class apart for me, never really forgave Maurice for letting him and Sam Panapa go even though it was the ruthless way Wigan acted at the time - just releasing players before they went past their best - my how times have changed!

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Quote: Bilko "Easy Jim Sullivan.

Top League Goal Scorer 16 (yes 16!) times out of 18 full seasons playing at Wigan.
Top league points scorer 12 times.

When you consider he didn't score that many tries to still be top point scorer 12 times highlights how good his kicking was.

Can't really argue with that although in modern times of any side Botica was on his own level. I suppose if he'd have played 18 years at Wigan he'd have done the same probably. Who knows.'"


Consider the ball they used too, probably 3 times the weight once it was wet through.

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Quote: ChrisA "Consider the ball they used too, probably 3 times the weight once it was wet through.'"


And the difference in surfaces of the pitch and the kicking tee and the boots we have now.

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Botica was a bit of a machine... icon_lol.gif

I remember at a similar time at Wire that we had Jonathan Davies, who was pretty decent, but Botica was on another level.

Can't speak for any other past Wigan players coming close to him, but at Wire we had Steve Hesford in the 70's & 80's, who, similar to Frano, was selected mainly for his kicking.

Be interesting to see if anybody is anoraky enough to have any stats???... icon_wink.gif

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