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I wish Wane would watch what he says about Madge. I'm sure no disrespect is intended and he is that heart on your sleave - call a spade a spade - kind of guy, but Madge transformed the club and has had tremendous success in the NRL too. Is it something like five years in the top grade coaching and he has won the Super League and the NRL. Criticism of a guy like that in an off the cuff interview just makes him look a tad silly to me.

Interesting about his contract. Unless I have missed it somewhere - three year contract and then a rolling one year and after year. His NRL ambitions confirmed too.

Good read.

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And it sounds like he's not going to give many débuts out this year because of the league structure. Bit weird.

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Quote: Wigg'n "And it sounds like he's not going to give many débuts out this year because of the league structure. Bit weird.'"


That is P&R for you. So why is it weird?

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Quote: cadoo "I wish Wane would watch what he says about Madge. I'm sure no disrespect is intended and he is that heart on your sleave - call a spade a spade - kind of guy, but Madge transformed the club and has had tremendous success in the NRL too. Is it something like five years in the top grade coaching and he has won the Super League and the NRL. Criticism of a guy like that in an off the cuff interview just makes him look a tad silly to me.

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I agree. A couple of other odd comments in there too from Wane.

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What a fantastic interview. It is very long and covers a lot of ground. His passion for Wigan and his love of the players shines through, as does his love of the game.

I fail to see what he has said about Madge that is in any way detrimental. They are great mates. SW admits he is not a natural assistant. He saw things from Madge that he liked and things that he didn't. So what? Everyone can learn from the best, but everyone has faults too. And Shaun admits it when he makes a mistake.

I like the way he never mentions the sending off at OT. He doesn't hide behind it. He says we made 6 breaks to Saints 1 and we should have won. No excuses.

I have to say, I love the bloke. I am so pleased he has signed a new deal and that he will be with us for the next three years at least. Yes, he makes errors of judgement, I don't think the WCC film was good for him at all, but with Waney you have to take him as you find him, and I admire his passion and honesty. He is a leader in the true sense of the word.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "His passion for Wigan and his love of the players shines through, as does his love of the game.............I have to say, I love the bloke.'"


I'm not surprised Wigan fans love him; his love for Wigan and hatred for Saints is extremely evident in almost every interview he does.

One thing that Saints haven't had in recent times is a coach with real passion for the club who understands the local rivalry; hopefully that will change with Cunningham in charge.

Wane does border on disrespectful at times though. He allows his hatred for Saints to cloud his judgement and he comes across quite petty. Take this interview for example - listing Leeds, Salford and Warrington as rivals for next year but not mentioning the Champions just comes across as silly. Also his insistence on referring to Saints as "them" or "that lot" during interviews; it's unprofessional and quite childish of him.

You can't knock his passion and commitment to Wigan though.

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Good read. With regard to debuts I wouldn't have expected many next season anyway other than Gildart who I'm pretty sure he has already said will debut and maybe Wright/Lever depending on injuries and whether Logan stays. When you look through the positions we generally have reserves and 2nd reserves both having already debutedGildart/Bateman
HB - Williams/Hampshire and Doran
P - Too many to name
H - L.Tomkins(?)/Doran and Wright
SR/LF - Patrick/C.Farrell and Lever

Must say I'm not too keen on his comments regarding Madge, whom I still rate as the better coach of the two.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I'm not surprised Wigan fans love him; his love for Wigan and hatred for Saints is extremely evident in almost every interview he does.

One thing that Saints haven't had in recent times is a coach with real passion for the club who understands the local rivalry; hopefully that will change with Cunningham in charge.

Wane does border on disrespectful at times though. He allows his hatred for Saints to cloud his judgement and he comes across quite petty. Take this interview for example - listing Leeds, Salford and Warrington as rivals for next year but not mentioning the Champions just comes across as silly. Also his insistence on referring to Saints as "them" or "that lot" during interviews; it's unprofessional and quite childish of him.

You can't knock his passion and commitment to Wigan though.'"

Fair points YG. My feeling is that he has a deeply held respect for Saints and that the 'hate' stuff is pantomime villain territory. When KC got the Saints job SW rang him to congratulate him - don't forget that.

Of course Saints are the biggest threat next season, it is probably implicit, in that he doesn't need to say it really. He won't believe for a minute that Salford are a bigger threat than Saints.

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Love the fact he doesnt mention Saints lol

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Fair points YG. My feeling is that he has a deeply held respect for Saints and that the 'hate' stuff is pantomime villain territory. When KC got the Saints job SW rang him to congratulate him - don't forget that.

Of course Saints are the biggest threat next season, it is probably implicit, in that he doesn't need to say it really. He won't believe for a minute that Salford are a bigger threat than Saints.'"


I agree with that, especially the last sentence. I just think it comes across as childish that he chooses not to mention probably the most obvious threat. I might just be being pedantic!

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Quote: Grimmy "Good read. With regard to debuts I wouldn't have expected many next season anyway other than Gildart who I'm pretty sure he has already said will debut and maybe Wright/Lever depending on injuries and whether Logan stays. When you look through the positions we generally have reserves and 2nd reserves both having already debutedGildart/Bateman
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P - Too many to name
H - L.Tomkins(?)/Doran and Wright
SR/LF - Patrick/C.Farrell and Lever

Must say I'm not too keen on his comments regarding Madge, whom I still rate as the better coach of the two.'"



I don't understand this comment. He praises Madge and says they are best mates.

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Quote: proper-shaped-balls "I don't understand this comment. He praises Madge and says they are best mates.'"


Me neither and I thought the same thing.
He only mentioned there things he'd learned not to do as well and then goes on to say that he was a frustrated assistant coach and wanted to control things.
Hardly a scathing attack?
But then again you can always find fault with something if you want to I suppose.

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Quote: Jukesays "Me neither and I thought the same thing.
He only mentioned there things he'd learned not to do as well and then goes on to say that he was a frustrated assistant coach and wanted to control things.
Hardly a scathing attack?
But then again you can always find fault with something if you want to I suppose.'"


Agree.
Surely all Wane is saying is that there were some things HE would have done a little bit differently than Maguire. That's not a criticism just stating fact.

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SW was publically fuming last season when Wire 'trained as Wigan' against the Roosters in a pre WCC training session. I hope that whilst Souths are training at Orrell we dont do similar 'playing the Saints way'...etc. No need to lower ourselves to Wire's standards.

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