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Quote: Zig "Firstly, I have not criticised Salford’s decision although I have expressed the reasons why I find it a bit strange. I would have thought that they would have wanted a home tie in the play offs.

Secondly, I accept your point that Leeds became champions from a different system than the one currently in place, if anything that system rewarded mediocrity even more. It still stick by my comment that the top five gave greater reward to the clubs that had performed best over the whole season, and rightly so.'"


Point 1 - I never said you did, I said that this conversation crips up every time a club does something like this (albeit it seems to create a lot more headlines and negative press from fans etc when it's wigan involved).

Second point - my point was that every person will hwve their own personal favourite, but others will criticise it in some way as there is no perfect system. The top 5 system has issues, and whilst giving the top 2 a 2nd chance it also leave the first qualifier to the final having played 1 game in about 4 weeks leading up to the final
For clarity the Top 5 wss always my favourite from an entertainment point of view.

My overall point is that the majority of fans/press etc will want a particular system until said system doesn't produce the outcome they want, then they want something else u till that produces something they don't like
As with a lot of things in life currently it seems that people make judgements based on what they WANT the facts to be and produce arguments based around that viewpoint, (not saying you are by the way)
I'm just saying salford have made a decision that suits them that thousands of clubs in hundreds of sports have done in the past and will do again in the future irrelevant of what system the sport uses
In this instance I'd bet 90% of the frothing at the mouth is because its benefitted Wigan and disadvantaged a team that's currently got a media love in (much like the furore over a non situation 2 weeks ago over the yellow cards).
Let em get on with it, get our heads down, win tonight, win in a fortnight's time and win the GF and let everyone else get on with makimg excuses

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Quote: MadDogg "I'd just enjoy it mate. When you get to a point when the media and fans are desperately hoping another team wins and start to sulk when it doesn't happen, you know your club is doing well.'"


I get that, but it can be damaging ... even if only because it doesn't showcase the best of us to the rest of the world. I remember having a conversation with a rival club-supporting friend back around 1993, and he quite seriously told me that we in Wigan had no clue "what damage" we were doing to the game overall. He said something like "it's all very well celebrating another Cup win in which the opposition had no chance, but the rest of us are just demoralised and depressed that the game we love has been taken away from us."

He seemed to have no conception that the onus was on the also-rans to up their game. It's an age-old frustration I have with our sport. But then, we haven't won the Grand Slam yet, so I shouldn't get ahead of myself.

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Its the tall poppy syndrome any one who rises above needs to be cut down asap.
Wigan are the most entertaining club at the min,we have it on the pitch just right but even more off the pitch.
It's an absolute joy to watch Wigan,enjoy it as much as you can it does'nt last forever.
We was also laughing at the Salford fans one minute "are you watching HKR " next "Salford Reds are rising" and "your support is f*cking sh*t " to the 15,000 from the 300 ,brilliant just brilliant.

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Quote: Akinwale Arobieke "Won't Wigan be the first club to win a Grand Slam twice if it comes off? Only done 4 times previously, Hunslet, Huddersfield, Swinton and us in 1995.'"


What do you call the Grand Slam?

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Quote: Zig "What do you call the Grand Slam?'"

In the Super League era, winning all 4 trophies in the same year, WCC, Challenge Cup, League Leaders and Super League.

Don't believe it's been done before. Saints won a treble in 2006 and the WCC the following year in 2007. Bradford won the WCC in 2006.

Same for Bradford who won a treble in 2003 but didn't win the WCC that year.

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Quote: Akinwale Arobieke "In the Super League era, winning all 4 trophies in the same year, WCC, Challenge Cup, League Leaders and Super League.

Don't believe it's been done before. Saints won a treble in 2006 and the WCC the following year in 2007. Bradford won the WCC in 2006.

Same for Bradford who won a treble in 2003 but didn't win the WCC that year.'"


I think that Wigan are the only team to win all four trophies in a season. That happened in 1991/92 and 1993/94. Nobody has done it in the SL era.

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