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Quote: Stu M "I've been really down on us all season for obvious reasons however there is a part of me that thinks we can go to Warrington and win even if Leigh beat us this week. Obviously I'd rather play Salford at H but there were some green shoots in our win over Cas. Whilst they had nothing to play for it was good to see us much more expansive and whilst naturally clunky at times, the difference that Welsby, Percival and even Dodd made was marked. Clark got 20 mins or so and Walmsley took his oven gloves off and caught the ball this time.

Knowles is the big one, his line speed, aggression and metres made plus his linking with the spine does make us look a different side.

A packed out away end at Warrington with no injuries or bans this week would still give me hope.

However that said we do need to beat Leigh. Our away form has been poor and our record against the top 6 even more so. Do I think we are good enough to win the comp? No but there are still a lot of big game experienced players in this team so there's a chance we will make a good fist of it.'"


I think you're right to mention the big game aspect. I don't get the sense that Wire have too many players that you'd say raise their game in the big games. There were certainly a few who disappointed at Wembley, albeit that was just one game.

I think beating Wire, Wigan and Hull KR (for example) in consecutive weeks will be beyond Saints, but you'll obviously be a different proposition with some players back compared to where you have been for the last couple of months. I'd be a lot happier if our route to silverware doesn't involve playing Saints (unless it's in the final!).

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Quote: MadDogg "I'd just enjoy it mate. When you get to a point when the media and fans are desperately hoping another team wins and start to sulk when it doesn't happen, you know your club is doing well.'"


I get that, but it can be damaging ... even if only because it doesn't showcase the best of us to the rest of the world. I remember having a conversation with a rival club-supporting friend back around 1993, and he quite seriously told me that we in Wigan had no clue "what damage" we were doing to the game overall. He said something like "it's all very well celebrating another Cup win in which the opposition had no chance, but the rest of us are just demoralised and depressed that the game we love has been taken away from us."

He seemed to have no conception that the onus was on the also-rans to up their game. It's an age-old frustration I have with our sport. But then, we haven't won the Grand Slam yet, so I shouldn't get ahead of myself.

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Its the tall poppy syndrome any one who rises above needs to be cut down asap.
Wigan are the most entertaining club at the min,we have it on the pitch just right but even more off the pitch.
It's an absolute joy to watch Wigan,enjoy it as much as you can it does'nt last forever.
We was also laughing at the Salford fans one minute "are you watching HKR " next "Salford Reds are rising" and "your support is f*cking sh*t " to the 15,000 from the 300 ,brilliant just brilliant.

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Quote: Akinwale Arobieke "Won't Wigan be the first club to win a Grand Slam twice if it comes off? Only done 4 times previously, Hunslet, Huddersfield, Swinton and us in 1995.'"


What do you call the Grand Slam?

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Quote: Zig "What do you call the Grand Slam?'"

In the Super League era, winning all 4 trophies in the same year, WCC, Challenge Cup, League Leaders and Super League.

Don't believe it's been done before. Saints won a treble in 2006 and the WCC the following year in 2007. Bradford won the WCC in 2006.

Same for Bradford who won a treble in 2003 but didn't win the WCC that year.

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Quote: Akinwale Arobieke "In the Super League era, winning all 4 trophies in the same year, WCC, Challenge Cup, League Leaders and Super League.

Don't believe it's been done before. Saints won a treble in 2006 and the WCC the following year in 2007. Bradford won the WCC in 2006.

Same for Bradford who won a treble in 2003 but didn't win the WCC that year.'"


I think that Wigan are the only team to win all four trophies in a season. That happened in 1991/92 and 1993/94. Nobody has done it in the SL era.

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