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Quote: Mark_P1973 "Blake was a strange signing, and the fact virtually all Saints fans dont rate him says quite a lot. With Ritson (i know he's not been playing ever week) also in your back line, its there to be got at. I initially thought the 1st Ritson deal was quite smart from Saints, but to then offer him a contract, even if not a lot of money wasnt the smartest business

onto props, yes, you've gone from dominant to struggling quite quickly in that area, and something you would have thought you'd be looking at addressing. I know we had a bit of a laugh as Wigan last year, when we just seemed to sign a prop every week, but its proven to be quite a good bit of business with the change in disciplinary rules and injuries we've had, and been able to turn out a strong looking pack each week. Its probably not a coincidence that Lees doesnt look as effective with the lack of firepower in the pack around him (note this isnt a pop at Lees), as its easier for sides to double up on him, if the other forwards arent making dents in the line'"


Spot on

I said similar to a couple of my Saints mates about Wigan being very smart. Its not just the disciplinary side and general injuries, its also the concussion rules and the increased chances of forwards in the middle suffering these.

We used to laugh at Wigan's powder puff pack and bullied them under Woolf but now its the other way round.

I have to say though I don't see Eseh or Chan at Wigan long-term.

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Prediction - St Helens will go to Warrington in the playoffs and win. Wigan v St Helens in the semi finals, Hull KR v Leigh in the other one.

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Quote: MadDogg "Prediction - St Helens will go to Warrington in the playoffs and win. Wigan v St Helens in the semi finals, Hull KR v Leigh in the other one.'"



After watching today's Wire v Saints game I can't see Saints beating them anywhere, home, away or neutral.
I do think Leigh at home will beat HKR next week.

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Quote: MadDogg "Prediction - St Helens will go to Warrington in the playoffs and win. Wigan v St Helens in the semi finals, Hull KR v Leigh in the other one.'"


All comes down to Leigh v Saints - now Saints are almost full strength it could mean they play Salford at home in the playoffs.

Either way I'm convinced it will end up with a Wigan v Saints semi final.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "A big reason I say it’s not critical is when you look at Jack Welsby’s trajectory as a direct comparison. He made 1 performance in his debut year at the same age, followed by 11 the next. Robertson will probably surpass 11 this year so he’s already ahead of where Welsby was.

If our back line next year at full strength is

I am informed that Welsby is not a happy bunny at Saints.

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Quote: Zig "I am informed that Welsby is not a happy bunny at Saints.'"


Stories like that always seem to appear when sides have an iffy season. In terms of Welsby, he's had a funny season really. He's never quite looked at his best but is good enough to still have major impacts on games. It's not a Saints/Wigan thing to say that I think he should've gone to the NRL. He's achieved everything in this country now and a move out of his comfort zone can help him to keep progressing. Everyone is different and he may well be a home bird but he surely regrets it in later life if he doesn't go and see how he gets on.

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