I understand your point re the injuries and we're pretty lucky you've racked up those injuries as I would be very fearful this Saturday, if we were to face a near-full strength Saints. However, we saw last week when a patched up Leeds side put us to the sword. Sometimes it's the team who wants the win more, and has more in the tank. We'll also be missing our 6,7,9,11.

My view is that you need the win more than us, as you say, you won't finish top 3; we most likely are nailed on to, barring a disaster. If you lose Saturday, you could finish the weekend only 2 points ahead of seventh, with KR at home, Wire away and Leigh away to come.

Mago has been the choice all season.

As long as he doesn't replicate Hill's week long efforts to get off the tackled player - always been annoying. But in other aspects a fair comparison, just think Havard needs to a bit more direct sometimes - he hesitates and shimmies a bit too much before going forward.

Must be a wind up or you have limited rugby knowledge.

Havard knocks out 100m plus per week on a regular basis, even when he doesn't play the full 80.

Not every forward has to run it in 100mph like Fielden or Peacock or Thompson.

He is improving year on year, put some size on, improving in defence and is still young for a prop. Not sure what more you can want at this stage.

He’s made 1131 meters in 14 games so no, he’s not doing 100m meters per game

He doesn't say he does 100m per game, every game. He says he does it on a regular basis, which he does.

You really are a waste of space, aren't you. Get a life. For your own sake.