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Quote: Stu M "Fully appreciate the games you’ve played and yes I expected a drop post WCC which to give you credit didn’t really happen. Maybe this is the dip

However in mitigation to the points you make about next week, our pack has been flogged. Due to the number of injuries we’ve had Clark, Lees and Sironen have been playing 80 mins every week more or less so there’s some fatigue to consider there too.

Delaney played busted which resulted in a reoccurrence of his knee and Stephens has played way more games than envisaged at just 19

It’s hardly like we are fresh as daisies going into next week and I’m also not sure you’re missing 6 of your first choice 17. That’s 7 if Matautia doesn’t make it and that’s not including Wingfield and Delaney who would be first replacements'"

I accept that Stu and, if you'd also just played 3 games in 10 days I'd put us back as favourites. Wellens has definitely flogged players too. Both coaches need to be better at rotating players and trusting their squads.

We'd argue all day about what constitutes a first team player for Saints Stu as I don't actually think anyone knows what your first choice is! icon_lol.gif Lomax and Dodd have both been awful this year. Hurrell is an unfit liability and you have a tendency to count several back towers, who can't all play at the same time, as first choice players. Then we have the perennial Ritson/Bennison argument and whether Mbye is better at 9 (he isn't) or in the halves (he is) anyway. Also should he play there before either of Dodd or Lomax (he should).

I don't think Hurrell, Lomax and Dodd are big misses for you currently and their replacements are doing better for you. Yes, technically they're absentees, but not in the same way as a French, O'Neil or Smith is for us.

Matautia, Knowles (if banned) and Welsby are big misses. Everyone else is a Cooper for us. It would be nice to have him back and would be in and around the 17 but that's all. In fact, given what we've just been saying about prop rotation I would argue that Cooper and Isa would probably make this week's starting team if they were available and would make us better. Could you honestly say the same about Dodd, Hurrell or Lomax?

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Quote: Phuzzy "Probably be a bigger margin once French is announced in the squad icon_wink.gif

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Quote: JIMMY MAGNETS "can't see it but can only hope Me neither mate but the rumours persist. Tbh I'm not sure I'd play him anyway unless it was 100% that he was totally fit. I'm thinking back to how we brought Harvard back for the Grand Final too early and another 6 weeks or more out for French at this stage would be disastrous!

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Didn't the bookies give Saints a 10 start last time? Looks like they learnt their lesson!

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Quote: moto748 "Didn't the bookies give Saints a 10 start last time? Looks like they learnt their lesson!'"


I think we've got even more missing this time icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Phuzzy "Me neither mate but the rumours persist. Tbh I'm not sure I'd play him anyway unless it was 100% that he was totally fit. I'm thinking back to how we brought Harvard back for the Grand Final too early and another 6 weeks or more out for French at this stage would be disastrous!'"


If it was a final then absolutely.

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