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Quote: Stu M "They are interchageable though. Whitley or Batchelor coming on would mean Matuatia may play at prop. Knowles has moved to prop this season when Bell has come on occasionally.

The back end of the season relies on some luck too. If say Wigan lost French and Smith at the same time then that's a massive blow regardless of how well the forwards are playing. Conversely if we lose Welsby I dread to think where we would be with how he has been playing lately, he's been looking like the Welsby of old, scoring and assisting lots again.

I agree about Walmsley, I actually think the new contract we've given him may come back to bite us, he's picking up inuries quite regularly now. Paasi is a huge bonus and the continued development of Delaney. Stephens has been the surprise and may feature more than we first envisaged. Took it to Catlans and showed some great feet for a couple of breaks.'"

Just my opinion of course but I'm not a big fan of that sort of rotation. It's good to have as an option in case of in game injuries etc. but I don't think it's ideal as a first port of call. Having only one genuine prop and then rotating back rowers to make up the shortfall doesn't strike me as a title winning option. As I say, just my opinion though.

Injuries will undoubtedly play a part which is why I think your returnees only coming back at the business end could count in your favour. They can't get injured from the stands. That said, it equally could count against you in that there's an extra burden on the senior players still there and, of course, players coming back could be offset by different ones getting injured. I genuinely think this is where our advantage lies this season. We've been able to rest and rotate our pack without too much drop off. I know that's no guarantee in itself, but it's a good place to be.

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Quote: Zig "If they are only rumours then why not? Is the current attacking coach on his way out?'"


Oh there’s plenty rumours doing the rounds that we’ve all heard. Opacic, Swift, Handley all been mentioned openly on redvee. Then there are others as well which may or may not turn out to be true.

Yeah I believe Briers will replace Frayssinous.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Oh there’s plenty rumours doing the rounds that we’ve all heard. Opacic, Swift, Handley all been mentioned openly on redvee. Then there are others as well which may or may not turn out to be true.

Yeah I believe Briers will replace Frayssinous.'"


Redvee? It is but a wish list. I don’t understand your reluctance unless you are trying to edge your bets. I won’t hold your feet to the fire, I promise.

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Quote: Zig "Redvee? It is but a wish list. I don’t understand your reluctance unless you are trying to edge your bets. I won’t hold your feet to the fire, I promise.'"


Because sometimes I get told stuff and get asked not to make it public. Why would I burn my bridges by blabbing? Not sure I know what you mean by hedging my bets. I’ve said we won’t be signing Drinkwater - I think that’s fairly definitive from me.

Stu M who posts on here knows I get bits here and there and I’ve sent NickyKiss info in the past that wasn’t public. So I’m not some fantasist who makes things up.

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Quote: Stu M "When he first came back a few weeks ago he looked relatively lean and in good shape however when he came back after the international break he looked quite out of shape.

It looked like he spent the week off continually eating. The players having time off has been a bug bear of mine and I have argued with other Saints fans about this. They had the CC SF weekend off and obviously the Final and the players were given time off, most of which went on holiday. The same thing happened with the international weekend and again most went away. They then came back and produced the horror show against Cas.

By contrast Wigan have played every week including the WCC and seem to be getting better every week. How many holidays do they need?'"



I don't disagree really, but I suppose the counterpoint would be that a better time to judge is at the end of the season and the state of the squads going into knock out rugby. Wane's first season immediately comes to mind when we were battering teams earlier in the year but picked up injuries and ran out of gas when it mattered.

I don't think we'll see a repeat this year, but I'd be lying if I said wasn't a bit concerned by the lack of chances to rest throughout the season.

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Quote: Cherry_&_White "I don't disagree really, but I suppose the counterpoint would be that a better time to judge is at the end of the season and the state of the squads going into knock out rugby. Wane's first season immediately comes to mind when we were battering teams earlier in the year but picked up injuries and ran out of gas when it mattered.

I don't think we'll see a repeat this year, but I'd be lying if I said wasn't a bit concerned by the lack of chances to rest throughout the season.'"


Exactly, there is a reason the double has only been done 6 times in 28 years.

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