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| Quote: NickyKiss "I don’t think there’s a right or wrong way. We definitely sit on the side of trying to just soak up any calls that might feel harsh, in terms of not calling it out in the press too much and we haven’t gone down that route of continuous appeals but it’s not doing us any favours looking at this season. Saints do it differently to us, it’s not a criticism, it’s just a fact and maybe it’s working and that’s fine.
Ultimately it isn’t about Wigan and Saints. I have said I won’t moan about none bans and I don’t but I’ll grumble about the length of bans and you can’t help compare incidents. Moylan getting none and Keighran 3 makes no sense, Hiku getting zero and Dupree 3 the same and so on. Good on the lads who’ve got off but what are they looking at?! It isn’t corrupt, it’s just incompetent and it always looks like things are being made up as they go along based on reaction to incidents, both by players on the end of them and by pundits. I really detest what the current set up is breeding and that’s play acting and faux outrage from fans/pundits and screams for punishment. It’s rapidly turning in to premier league football and the game should be embarrassed.'"
Just to play devils advocate here though and I'm genuinely not looking for an argument but aren't previous charges taken into account like they do with the NRL? Both Dupree and Keighran do have "form"
Also you were on the other side of the coin when Smith got off for the WCC when others were banned for very similar.
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| Quote: nikos "I've got a bit of a persecution complex I know, but I do think, had the incidents happened the other way around, neither would have been carded.
I think it was an attempt to let Wire get some points on the board by putting us down a man, to try and make a contest of it, but the officials had no choice but to be consistent when the second incident occurred.'"
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| Well, we are getting into a pickle whoever is to blame. Was Cooper's tackle even a penalty? TBF the VR called for the card so not Kendall's "fault". The Dufty one was a pen as a swinging arm hit the shoulder and ended up head high - a yellow could have been given or not but the occasion meant it was guaranteed.
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| What I'm not clear about, and I'd appreciate other posters' thoughts, is was it Kendall or Liam Moore, the VR, who actually made the decisions to card Cooper (and Dufty)? Does the VR overrule the on-field ref?
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| Quote: moto748 "What I'm not clear about, and I'd appreciate other posters' thoughts, is was it Kendall or Liam Moore, the VR, who actually made the decisions to card Cooper (and Dufty)? Does the VR overrule the on-field ref?'"
VR can advise the on field ref but it’s the on field who makes the final decision. That’s said, if I were a ref and the Vr with the benefit of replays advised me to send someone off I would do it.
JD said in commentary that he heard the Vr advised for the Cooper yellow, not sure about the other.
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| Thanks, that what I thought. As has been mentioned, if the BBC commentators had shut up, we might have been able to hear what Kendall was saying! Certainly Kendall didn't seem to want to do anything initially about Cooper. And then, having carded Cooper, it put a different light on the Dufty situation.
I've been away for the last couple of days and still haven't watched the game back yet. Hoping to get to it shortly.
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