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| Quote Phuzzy="Phuzzy"I haven't seen it on TV yet but it looked ok at the match. He's fully in control at the point of tackle with both feet on the ground but gets pulled over by the Cas player. Iirc he goes to ground front first so isn't putting his weight through the tackled player as he would with a hip drop or similar.
As I say, that's just the impression from the game so it may look different on TV but I didn't get that impression from the actual tackle which happened pretty much in front of us.'"
There was a video knocking around twitter but it's been deleted, there's a point in the tackle where he's swung around with both feet off the floor, he'll be very lucky to escape a ban.
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| According to RedVee it's a Grade F tackle, we'll have to see Monday afternoon
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| Quote apollosghost="apollosghost"According to RedVee it's a Grade F tackle, we'll have to see Monday afternoon'"
Only an F?
I’d have thought they’d be pushing for a Z.
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| Quote spartakmixtapes="spartakmixtapes"There was a video knocking around twitter but it's been deleted, there's a point in the tackle where he's swung around with both feet off the floor, he'll be very lucky to escape a ban.'"
But that is not a hip drop tackle.
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| Quote apollosghost="apollosghost"According to RedVee it's a Grade F tackle, we'll have to see Monday afternoon'"
What time is his execution scheduled for?
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| Quote Zig="Zig"But that is not a hip drop tackle.'"
I my original post I said I didn't think it was a text book hip drop.
The RFL will want to be seen as consistent, if you leave your feet in the tackle and apply your full weight to a player in a way that could be deemed reckless and they get injured, you're going to get pinged for it.
The mitigation in Nsemba case is that be doesn't land on the lads legs so it's not a "hip drop".
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| Quote spartakmixtapes="spartakmixtapes"I my original post I said I didn't think it was a text book hip drop.
The RFL will want to be seen as consistent, if you leave your feet in the tackle and apply your full weight to a player in a way that could be deemed reckless and they get injured, you're going to get pinged for it.
The mitigation in Nsemba case is that be doesn't land on the lads legs so it's not a "hip drop".'"
I haven't seen it back (what time is it?) But there's a difference between leaving your feet because the natural momentum of a tackle going away from you pulls the defender from their feet and being in control of your movement and deciding/deliberately making a movement to jump forward and around/into the ball carrier to maximise weight drop around/onto the ball carrier
There was a tackle in the cats game last night were defender is "pulled" off their feet and they end up behind and on ball carriers legs, but defender made no play to do that and weight wasn't promoted forward by defender.
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"I haven't seen it back (what time is it?) But there's a difference between leaving your feet because the natural momentum of a tackle going away from you pulls the defender from their feet and being in control of your movement and deciding/deliberately making a movement to jump forward and around/into the ball carrier to maximise weight drop around/onto the ball carrier
There was a tackle in the cats game last night were defender is "pulled" off their feet and they end up behind and on ball carriers legs, but defender made no play to do that and weight wasn't promoted forward by defender.'"
https://twitter.com/spartakmixtapes/sta ... 09731?s=19
I've posted the clip there.
You are right buuuut, in the current climate, if you end up dropping your weight in a tackle and the attacker gets injured you're going to get cited, then all that will be taken into consideration, how you left your feet, how and where you landed, can it be deemed to be reckless regardless of intent.
Watching the video, IMO Junior would be very lucky not to get a ban.
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"I haven't seen it back (what time is it?) But there's a difference between leaving your feet because the natural momentum of a tackle going away from you pulls the defender from their feet and being in control of your movement and deciding/deliberately making a movement to jump forward and around/into the ball carrier to maximise weight drop around/onto the ball carrier
There was a tackle in the cats game last night were defender is "pulled" off their feet and they end up behind and on ball carriers legs, but defender made no play to do that and weight wasn't promoted forward by defender.'"
https://twitter.com/spartakmixtapes/sta ... 09731?s=19
I've posted the clip there.
You are right buuuut, in the current climate, if you end up dropping your weight in a tackle and the attacker gets injured you're going to get cited, then all that will be taken into consideration, how you left your feet, how and where you landed, can it be deemed to be reckless regardless of intent.
Watching the video, IMO Junior would be very lucky not to get a ban.
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| Quote spartakmixtapes="spartakmixtapes"https://twitter.com/spartakmixtapes/status/1781966782540009731?s=19
I've posted the clip there.
You are right buuuut, in the current climate, if you end up dropping your weight in a tackle and the attacker gets injured you're going to get cited, then all that will be taken into consideration, how you left your feet, how and where you landed, can it be deemed to be reckless regardless of intent.
Watching the video, IMO Junior would be very lucky not to get a ban.'"
Thanks for the clip - if I had to guess I'd say he'll get a 1-2 game ban. Personally I think Junior instinctively left his feet and used his body weight to drag the Cas player back - you can't do that now.
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| Quote spartakmixtapes="spartakmixtapes"https://twitter.com/spartakmixtapes/status/1781966782540009731?s=19
I've posted the clip there.
You are right buuuut, in the current climate, if you end up dropping your weight in a tackle and the attacker gets injured you're going to get cited, then all that will be taken into consideration, how you left your feet, how and where you landed, can it be deemed to be reckless regardless of intent.
Watching the video, IMO Junior would be very lucky not to get a ban.'"
Thought at the time Lingard was saying hip drop on the sideline (not sure, I was lip reading that).
Not a hip drop but the NFL have something they call a "horse collar" tackle, a bit like this tackle so maybe MRP will introduce that idea here. A ban would be harsh so maybe a fine/warning and a new directive going out?
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| Looks a potential ban to be tbh. It might not be a conventional hip drop tackle but both his feet leave the ground and they’ll consider any injury, rightly or wrongly. I do think Nsemba gets swung around as the attacker starts dropping and you can see he turns to his left as he’s going down, which makes Nsemba do that but you know what they’re like. They’ll come up with some reasoning where Nsemba should’ve just disappeared in a puff of smoke.
It’ll be interesting to see who plays at second row if he’s out. I don’t think Walters will be ready for the 80 but they’re not testing Chan out in there at reserve level as far as I’m aware.
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