I hate the rule of where the ref thinks its a try and then there isn no proof of a try and then the video ref agrees!

That seems a fair summary to me. I checked in the paper this morning and it said we had won, that's good enough

Whatever the result had been, I thought it was a fantastic game of rugby league.

Thank you.

Do you mean the rule that if the VR can't find conclusive proof to disprove the referee's thoughts, then he goes back to the original, on-field decision?

That one?

Wonderful win - really brilliant. So much bravery and courage on display. Up against it all game territory wise and kept hanging in there. Was clear from the start we wouldn't have many chances but thankfully we took them when they came.

Thought Liam Byrne was strong from the start, Kaide Ellis and Liam Marshall prominent throughout. Harvie Hill had a real dig. Bevan French drifts in and out of games sometimes but when he pops up its all quality. The tackle from Field towards the end was one of the best ever seen at the stadium. There was a crucial second or two when he put his foot right down on the accelerator (which he doesn't often do as he doesn't need to) - looked like an Olympic sprinter.

The Wardle try shouldn't have been given but I think we all knew we'd need that bit of luck somewhere to have a chance. Thought the French try was fine looking at the replays - it was only after the different rules were explained regarding both feet that it made sense. Thought they got away with a clear high tackle on Jai Field late on. The decision at the end was perfectly correct.

But here's the thing - think about the huge disparity in resource between the competitions - salary cap, depth of player pool, intensity of games etc. Think of how Australians clearly look down on the English sides, understandably to some extent. Given all this, why is it that they are so dependent on one refereeing decision to get a result? Why are English sides so competitive against Australian sides, be it last night or Saints last year or England against Australia in the 2017 WC final? Is it England or Australia that are underperforming more given the relative resources available? Penrith had plenty of chances to win the game and ultimately couldn't covert - in no small part due to Wigan's resilience. Credit to Cleary for acknowledging that post match.

Should also be noted that Wigan's pack was riddled with injury by the end with Havard, Walters and Thompson already out and Cooper, Leeming and Byrne all needing to be replaced during the game. To hang in there the way we did was outstanding. We'll likely be down to the bare bones over the next couple of months - I don't think it really matters though. We'll hopefully still be able to stay in contention for the top 2, if not and we end up in the top 4 or even top 6 I'm sure most would happily take that in exchange for a win last night.

I think Leeming and Cooper will be out for a good few weeks. Byrne, assuming he failed his HIA, will miss the Giants game, and Ellis will be a big doubt. On the plus side Thompson is back, Chan should get his first run out of the season, Hill will get more minutes and hopefully Forber will make the 17. Who said we had signed too many forwards? Somebody at the Club knew what they were doing.

I disagree, I am sure that Leeming would have told him he was good to go. Coaches are relying on players being honest.

Nsembe needs adding to that injury list and Ellis played the second half with an injury. Regarding SL, I think it will be a two horse race, us and Saints.

A fantastic game and a fantastic win. To stay calm and disciplined with the ball and to show such concentration in defence all while Penrith tried to strangle the life out of us was an effort you don’t associate with English sides too often. I think having to play against a Saints side trying to do the same this past few years has really helped in that regard and we’ve got better and better at coping with that.

I thought there were great efforts all over the place but no huge stand out, which shows what a great team effort it was. We looked pretty busted with issues for Leeming, Ellis, Cooper and Byrne but those are worries for another day.

Cheers for that, not seen any injury updates yet but I'd imagine there'll be a few missing next weeks game, Byrne Cooper an Leeming didn't look good

To make the win even better there's a very funny thread 'Wigan buying the WCC' on Redvee.

A couple of sensible posts by the usual sensible posters but the rest are going down a 'deep state conspiracy' rabbit hole